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US CEO killing: Suspect struggles, shouts while entering courthouse
The suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO struggled with deputies and shouted today while arriving for a court appearance in Pennsylvania, a day after he was arrested at a McDonald's and charged with murder.

Luigi Nicholas Mangione emerged from a patrol car, spun toward reporters and shouted something partly unintelligible referring to an "insult to the intelligence of the American people" while deputies pushed him inside.

Prosecutors were beginning steps to bring Mangione back to New York to face a murder charge while new details emerged about his life and how he was captured.

The 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family was charged with murder hours after he was arrested in the Manhattan killing of Brian Thompson, who led the United States' largest medical insurance company.

At the brief hearing, defence lawyer Thomas Dickey informed the court that Mangione will not waive extradition to New York but instead wants a hearing on the issue. Mangione was denied bail after prosecutors raised concerns about public safety and a potential flight risk.

Mangione, wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, mostly stared straight ahead at the hearing, occasionally consulting papers, rocking in his chair or looking back at the gallery. At one point, he began to speak to respond to the court discussion but was quieted by his lawyer.

Mangione likely was motivated by his anger with what he called "parasitic" health insurance companies and a disdain for corporate greed, a law enforcement bulletin obtained by The Associated Press said.

He wrote that the US has the most expensive health care system in the world and that profits of major corporations continue to rise while "our life expectancy" does not, according to the bulletin, based on a review of his hand-written notes and social media posts.

Mangione called "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski a "political revolutionary" and may have found inspiration from the man who carried out a series of bombings while railing against modern society and technology, according to a police bulletin.

Mangione remained jailed in Pennsylvania, where he was initially charged with possession of an unlicensed firearm, forgery and providing false identification to police. Manhattan prosecutors have obtained an arrest warrant, a step that could help expedite his extradition from Pennsylvania.

Mangione's severe back pain

From January to June 2022, Mangione lived at Surfbreak, a "co-living" space at the edge of touristy Waikiki in Honolulu.

Like other residents of the shared penthouse catering to remote workers, Mangione underwent a background check, said Josiah Ryan, a spokesperson for owner and founder RJ Martin.

"Luigi was just widely considered to be a great guy. There were no complaints," Ryan said. "There was no sign that might point to these alleged crimes they're saying he committed."

At Surfbreak, Martin learned Mangione had severe back pain from childhood that interfered with many aspects of his life, from surfing to romance, Ryan said.

"He went surfing with RJ once but it didn't work out because of his back," Ryan said, but noted that Mangione and Martin often went together to a rock-climbing gym.

Mangione left Surfbreak to get surgery on the mainland, Ryan said, then later returned to Honolulu and rented an apartment.

Martin stopped hearing from Mangione six months to a year ago.

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Mangione was arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania — about about 370km west of New York City — after the McDonald's customer recognised him and notified an employee, authorities said.

Officers arrived to find Mangione sitting at a table in the back of the restaurant, wearing a blue medical mask and looking at a laptop, according to a Pennsylvania police criminal complaint.

He initially gave them a fake ID, but when an officer asked Mangione whether he'd been to New York recently, he "became quiet and started to shake", the complaint said.

When he pulled his mask down at officers' request, "we knew that was our guy", rookie Officer Tyler Frye said at a news conference in Hollidaysburg.

Images of Mangione released by Pennsylvania State Police showed him pulling down his mask in the corner of the McDonald's while holding what appeared to be hash browns and wearing a winter jacket and ski cap. In another photo from a holding cell, he stood unsmiling with rumpled hair.

New York Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said at a Manhattan news conference that Mangione was carrying a gun like the one used to kill Thompson and the same fake ID the shooter had used to check into a New York hostel, along with a passport and other fraudulent IDs.

'I wasn't working with anyone'

NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny said Mangione also had a three-page, handwritten document that shows "some ill will toward corporate America".

A law enforcement official who wasn't authorised to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke with The Associated Press on condition of anonymity said the document included a line in which Mangione claimed to have acted alone.

"To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone," the document said, according to the official.

It also had a line that said: "I do apologise for any strife or traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming."

Pennsylvania prosecutor Peter Weeks said in court that Mangione was found with a passport and US$10,000 (NZ$17,250) in cash, US$2000 (NZ$3450) of it in foreign currency. Mangione disputed the amount.

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hompson, 50, was killed as he walked alone to a midtown Manhattan hotel for an investor conference. Police quickly came to see the shooting as a targeted attack by a gunman who appeared to wait for Thompson, came up behind him and fired a 9mm pistol.

Investigators have said "delay", "deny" and "depose" were written on ammunition found near the body of Thompson, the leader of the largest subsidiary of the Minnetonka, Minnesota-based UnitedHealth Group. The words mimic "delay, deny, defend", a phrase used to criticise the insurance industry.

From surveillance video, New York investigators gathered that the shooter fled by bike into Central Park, emerged, then took a taxi to a northern Manhattan bus terminal.

Once in Pennsylvania, he went from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh, "trying to stay low-profile" by avoiding cameras, Pennsylvania State Police Lieutenant Colonel George Bivens said.

Altoona is about 160km east of Pittsburgh.

A grandson of a wealthy, self-made real estate developer and philanthropist, Mangione is a cousin of a current Maryland state legislator.

Mangione was valedictorian at his elite Baltimore prep school.

He went on to earn undergraduate and graduate degrees in computer science in 2020 from the University of Pennsylvania, a spokesperson said.

"Our family is shocked and devastated by Luigi's arrest," Mangione's family said in a statement posted on social media by his cousin, Maryland lawmaker Nino Mangione.

"We offer our prayers to the family of Brian Thompson and we ask people to pray for all involved."
At one point, he began to speak to respond to the court discussion but was quieted by his lawyer.
Sounds like he has a competent lawyer he is willing to listen to.

Keeping the gun, mask and ID used for the fake ID shooting makes me wonder what other evidence he left behind. So I'm expecting a plea deal or the prosecution screws up so badly the case gets thrown out.
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Broomstick wrote: 2024-12-10 03:38pm No, that was Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, and they walked it back almost immediately.

Of course, I'm sure they were whining "we're not saying you can't have anesthesia... we just aren't going to pay for it. Even if medically necessary."
So, their "defenders" are claiming that they trying to follow CMS guidelines and prevent anaesthetist from overbilling hours. Now, there are people committing fraud that way, but when UHC commited fraud against Medicare advantage by claiming patients had cancer, their defence was
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/ ... lled-rule/
Essentially it's CMS fault for not adopting the rule to double check us.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander I say.

Especially since how Medicaid/Medicare does it is that they find ALL the staff involved, then give a very low conversion payment factor.

https://www.asahq.org/quality-and-pract ... -modifiers


Which is utterly different from anthem covering only up to the expected operating hours.
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bilateralrope wrote: 2024-12-11 01:50am Sounds like he has a competent lawyer he is willing to listen to.
Ralin wrote: 2024-12-10 01:52am And from the sounds of it he's an educated man from a well-off family. The kind of person who has a better than average chance to not make stupid mistakes and to be able to work effectively with his lawyer and be an active participant in his own defense.
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Leaked video shows UnitedHealth CEO saying insurer will continue practices that combat 'unnecessary' care
Witty's comments come after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was killed last week
By Eric Revell FOXBusiness


The CEO of UnitedHealth Group said in a leaked internal video that the insurance company will continue to work to prevent "unnecessary" and "unsafe" care that would strain the health care system.

"Our role is a critical role, and we make sure that care is safe, appropriate, and is delivered when people need it," United Health CEO Andrew Witty said in the video address to the company's employees following the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, which was leaked to journalist Ken Klippenstein.

Witty is the CEO of UnitedHealth Group, the parent company of UnitedHealthcare. Thompson was killed in what police say was a targeted attack in New York City last week, prompting a manhunt for the suspect.

"We guard against the pressures that exist for unsafe care or for unnecessary care to be delivered in a way which makes the whole system too complex and ultimately unsustainable," Witty said.

He added that employees should "tune out" criticism of the insurance company, saying that it "does not reflect reality."

Witty said the company is going to "continue to make sure that we put patients, consumers, and members first, as we always have done. The mission of this company is truly to make sure that we help the system improve by helping the experience for individuals get better and better."

"There is nobody who did more to try and advance that mission than Brian Thompson. And there are very few people in the history of the U.S. health care industry who had a bigger positive effect on American health care than Brian," Witty said. "We are going to make sure that we not only acknowledge and honor that legacy of Brian, but we'll continue it."

UnitedHealth did not respond to FOX Business' request for comment.
It sounds like he's saying that the life of the CEO is worth less than shareholder value. Or he's detached from reality.
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“Nothing to see here, now get back to work!”

I wonder, do they actually believe their statements, or are they just putting them out as some sense of obligation to avoid some kind of lawsuit?
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What are the odds that he'll plead guilty and avoid the need for a trial?
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EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2024-12-11 06:24pm What are the odds that he'll plead guilty and avoid the need for a trial?
Given that large chunks of the public reacted to his crime like Ewoks watching the Death Star blow up I'd be surprised if he didn't take his chances.
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NBC finds the obvious motive to be very inconvenient. So they try to blame violent video games. This time, they go with blaming Among Us.


'Extremely ironic': Suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO slaying played video game killer, friend recalls
A man who attended college with Luigi Mangione and was a member of the same Discord group said he was shocked when news broke on social media that Mangione had been taken into police custody.

Dec. 10, 2024, 5:45 PM GMT+13
By Alicia Victoria Lozano


Luigi Mangione, who was arrested and charged with murder in the shooting death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, once belonged to a group of Ivy League gamers who played assassins, a member of the group told NBC News.

In the game, called "Among Us," some players are secretly assigned to be killers in space who perform other tasks while trying to avoid suspicion from other players.

Alejandro Romero, who attended the University of Pennsylvania with Mangione and was a member of the same Discord group, said he was shocked when news broke on social media that Mangione had been taken into police custody.

"I just found it extremely ironic that, you know, we were in this game and there could actually be a true killer among us," he said.

"As soon as his photo and name popped up on X, my friend texted me asking if I knew him, and then either I was calling some 10 friends or they were calling me," Romero added. "I didn't speak to anybody today who wasn't already aware of what had happened."

"Among Us" is a child-friendly whodunnit game in which a group of friends run around several space station-like maps. The “crewmates,” who are simply drawn, cartoonish-looking astronauts, run around the ship and complete tasks.

The intent of the game? One member is a killer and attempts to off the other crewmates. The death animations are silly and shown as someone getting stabbed in the back or having their neck snapped. Once a body is discovered, a crewmate reports it and a conversation ensues to deduce who the gamers think committed the crime. If they’re wrong, an innocent player will be ejected in a humorous animation of them floating off into space. If they’re right, the crewmates win. If the “killer” gets all the crewmates or gets all the innocent ones ejected, they win.

The game has been wildly popular, especially during the pandemic, and particularly among young children because of its simple mechanics, colorful cartoonish nature, and unpredictability. The game is so beloved by younger gamers, dressing as a “crewmate” is often a popular children’s costume at Halloween
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Enough people played amungus to know this is stupid right?
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Just like every other shooting where someone tries to blame a video game.

This is just the example that shows the most desperation in trying to blame video games instead of the actual causes.
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AniThyng wrote: 2024-12-12 03:16am Enough people played amungus to know this is stupid right?
I havent played AmongUs, but I know enough to know they're really stretching calling it an assassination game.
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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-12-12 09:23am
AniThyng wrote: 2024-12-12 03:16am Enough people played amungus to know this is stupid right?
I havent played AmongUs, but I know enough to know they're really stretching calling it an assassination game.
I haven't played it at all, but from what I hear it's more of a sabotage and deception game from the adversary's perspective. Rubbing each other out is something everybody does.

And if video games cause real violence, I am in serious trouble because I killed about 20 people in Dead by Daylight this morning.

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I've blown up entire PLANETS in video games If games caused real violence, I should be AT LEAST a serial killer.
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Batman wrote: 2024-12-12 03:43pm I've blown up entire PLANETS in video games If games caused real violence, I should be AT LEAST a serial killer.
I mean, technically that'd be more mass-murderer. But, yeah. The idea is absurd on the face of it. Most of us here probably play violent video games, and I'm probably the most violent guy here besides Batman. And I don't consider myself that violent; I play sports and defend myself sometimes.

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bilateralrope wrote: 2024-12-12 01:18am NBC finds the obvious motive to be very inconvenient. So they try to blame violent video games. This time, they go with blaming Among Us.


'Extremely ironic': Suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO slaying played video game killer, friend recalls
A man who attended college with Luigi Mangione and was a member of the same Discord group said he was shocked when news broke on social media that Mangione had been taken into police custody.

Dec. 10, 2024, 5:45 PM GMT+13
By Alicia Victoria Lozano


Luigi Mangione, who was arrested and charged with murder in the shooting death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, once belonged to a group of Ivy League gamers who played assassins, a member of the group told NBC News.

In the game, called "Among Us," some players are secretly assigned to be killers in space who perform other tasks while trying to avoid suspicion from other players.

Alejandro Romero, who attended the University of Pennsylvania with Mangione and was a member of the same Discord group, said he was shocked when news broke on social media that Mangione had been taken into police custody.

"I just found it extremely ironic that, you know, we were in this game and there could actually be a true killer among us," he said.

"As soon as his photo and name popped up on X, my friend texted me asking if I knew him, and then either I was calling some 10 friends or they were calling me," Romero added. "I didn't speak to anybody today who wasn't already aware of what had happened."

"Among Us" is a child-friendly whodunnit game in which a group of friends run around several space station-like maps. The “crewmates,” who are simply drawn, cartoonish-looking astronauts, run around the ship and complete tasks.

The intent of the game? One member is a killer and attempts to off the other crewmates. The death animations are silly and shown as someone getting stabbed in the back or having their neck snapped. Once a body is discovered, a crewmate reports it and a conversation ensues to deduce who the gamers think committed the crime. If they’re wrong, an innocent player will be ejected in a humorous animation of them floating off into space. If they’re right, the crewmates win. If the “killer” gets all the crewmates or gets all the innocent ones ejected, they win.

The game has been wildly popular, especially during the pandemic, and particularly among young children because of its simple mechanics, colorful cartoonish nature, and unpredictability. The game is so beloved by younger gamers, dressing as a “crewmate” is often a popular children’s costume at Halloween
So this is basically the game version of the TV show The Traitors then.
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Raw Shark wrote: 2024-12-12 05:06pm
Batman wrote: 2024-12-12 03:43pm I've blown up entire PLANETS in video games If games caused real violence, I should be AT LEAST a serial killer.
I mean, technically that'd be more mass-murderer. But, yeah. The idea is absurd on the face of it. Most of us here probably play violent video games, and I'm probably the most violent guy here besides Batman. And I don't consider myself that violent; I play sports and defend myself sometimes.
Going by my performance in 3d Shooters, I'd be the Punisher.

So yeah, video games does not make one violent.

More then likely, they attract those who were already violent.
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Solauren wrote: 2024-12-12 06:29pm Going by my performance in 3d Shooters, I'd be the Punisher.
I've probably said this here before, the recent appearance of Punisher iconography among my fellow citizens disturbs me. Frank Castle is a tortured man. Not someone to emulate. The redneck Meal Team 6 vigilante-wannabes flying his flag don't know what they're talking about.

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Raw Shark wrote: 2024-12-12 06:32pm
Solauren wrote: 2024-12-12 06:29pm Going by my performance in 3d Shooters, I'd be the Punisher.
I've probably said this here before, the recent appearance of Punisher iconography among my fellow citizens disturbs me. Frank Castle is a tortured man. Not someone to emulate. The redneck Meal Team 6 vigilante-wannabes flying his flag don't know what they're talking about.
Agreed.

I was talking in terms of body count post-psychotic break. Now that the Punisher should be emulated.
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Batman wrote: 2024-12-12 03:43pm I've blown up entire PLANETS in video games If games caused real violence, I should be AT LEAST a serial killer.
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I'm not sure my kill count in fantasy RPGs adds up to what I did in SciFi Games, but yeah, most of us in the western world have a gaming killcount unmatched by most real-world criminals (including war criminals)yet still most of us have yet to kill anybody (even people who very much deserve to die (like republican politicians, or health insurance executives).
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A suspect committed an extremely violent, irreversibly terminal crime upon a VIP, so the US system and society as a whole must be malfunctioning when the general US public are, at best, going "Oh noes! Anyway..." or at worst brazenly cheering at the killing (while the US establishment and mass media are in unison coming over as fearful, tone deaf, impotently angry, delusional, and evasive).

And blaming the assassin's mindstate on video games? Really?! That's so late 90s early 00s!
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Big Orange wrote: 2024-12-13 01:07pm A suspect committed an extremely violent, irreversibly terminal crime upon a VIP, so the US system and society as a whole must be malfunctioning when the general US public are, at best, going "Oh noes! Anyway..." or at worst brazenly cheering at the killing (while the US establishment and mass media are in unison coming over as fearful, tone deaf, impotently angry, delusional, and evasive).

And blaming the assassin's mindstate on video games? Really?! That's so late 90s early 00s!
The suspect wrote he was experience 'mind fog' in various places (i.e social media). He probably has mental health problems.
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Solauren wrote: 2024-12-13 01:39pm
Big Orange wrote: 2024-12-13 01:07pm A suspect committed an extremely violent, irreversibly terminal crime upon a VIP, so the US system and society as a whole must be malfunctioning when the general US public are, at best, going "Oh noes! Anyway..." or at worst brazenly cheering at the killing (while the US establishment and mass media are in unison coming over as fearful, tone deaf, impotently angry, delusional, and evasive).

And blaming the assassin's mindstate on video games? Really?! That's so late 90s early 00s!
The suspect wrote he was experience 'mind fog' in various places (i.e social media). He probably has mental health problems.
IF what we've heard about his back surgery is true, then the 'mind fog' could be whatever pain medication he's been prescribed
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Re: Manhunt underway after American health insurance boss shot dead outside New York hotel

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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-12-13 04:25pm
Solauren wrote: 2024-12-13 01:39pm
Big Orange wrote: 2024-12-13 01:07pm A suspect committed an extremely violent, irreversibly terminal crime upon a VIP, so the US system and society as a whole must be malfunctioning when the general US public are, at best, going "Oh noes! Anyway..." or at worst brazenly cheering at the killing (while the US establishment and mass media are in unison coming over as fearful, tone deaf, impotently angry, delusional, and evasive).

And blaming the assassin's mindstate on video games? Really?! That's so late 90s early 00s!
The suspect wrote he was experience 'mind fog' in various places (i.e social media). He probably has mental health problems.
IF what we've heard about his back surgery is true, then the 'mind fog' could be whatever pain medication he's been prescribed
Which raises the question of did he have a mental health issue, or were the medications he was on screwing with this head? (i.e he should have been on something else).

Which, as a tangent, raises further questions about mental health, and the misuse of pain medications in the United States.
I've been asked why I still follow a few of the people I know on Facebook with 'interesting political habits and view points'.

It's so when they comment on or approve of something, I know what pages to block/what not to vote for.
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Re: Manhunt underway after American health insurance boss shot dead outside New York hotel

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I'm just surprised every hour that he isn't found in his cell, duck taped to his chair having shot himself 7 times in the back of the head.
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