Omega-13 wrote:Cyril wrote:You seem to be missing a critical point.
The droid's blaster is *in it's hand* Therefor, it has no need to enter melee combat.It's weapon is attached to it's fist; therefor it's always going to be able to use it, even if it's grappling a foe. If you have a choice between a fist and a fully automatic plasma weapon, which will would you chose?
Futhermore, I have hands, and I can bash things, but I'm not an effective melee fighter. The possession of hands and the ability to bash things does not a melee fighter make.
your right, nothing ever gets damaged in warfare, my mistake,
As for you bashing things around, could you not bash around an android made out of cardboard?
its the same principle, the battle droids are so much more durable its not even funny
You are unbelievably stupid! And you live in Canada, so unless you have moved there you cannot even excuse yourself by saying that you are a product of the American education system! And your grammar sucks ass!
Look, just because something is liable to get damaged in combat does not mean that you should upgrade the entire system around that potential vulnerability. It costs money and resources to upgrade systems. There is a point where it becomes better to build an additional unit with a small weakness that is not likely to present itself than to spend money to install failsafes. Think about it. Blasters are extremely reliable weapons. They function from Hoth to Tatooine to Dathomir without apparent problems. They can be damaged in combat, but let's say it takes 100 credits to make a SBD capable of fighting HtH with proficiency, and 5000 credits to buy a complete SBD without the upgrade. Blasters can take a considerable amount of abuse, and by all appearances require very little maintenance. Now, if the chances that the BD loses its blaster in combat through damage or malfunction, while the rest of the system remains functional, are one in 1000, it is far better to buy additional units with the money you otherwise would spend upgrading the original SBD. That is because you can buy additional units with an only slightly reduced combat function, and that advantage in numbers offsets their slight combat deficiency. You are an idiot for not recognizing this.
Now, you tell us that the SBD could bash Data into a cube. Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever? What the hell kind of tools does it have to bash Data into junk? It clearly is not designed for HtH combat. You not only have no canon evidence of SBD CQC combat capabilities beyond the laughably weak attack on an unprepared BD, but you IGNORE all of our arguments for why Data would be able to defeat the SBD in HtH combat.
You state that BD make Data look like cardboard. Go back and watch TPM, moron, the BD are dismantled in melee combat by Gungans. Data is obviously so much stronger than a Klingon warrior that the Klingon has no chance at harming him. How the hell did you come to your conclusion? It is analogous to DarkStar's statements in its bias and stupidity.
How did you come to the conclusion that melee combat is inevitable in warfare? In modern combat, melee action is only used if extenuating circumstances exist. This usually means modern firearms cannot be used due to space limitations, lack of ammunition, or reliability issues. We see that the SBD requires only TINY amounts of space for its weapons to operate. We know that blasters have very few reliability problems. We also know that blasters have considerable ammunition capacities. Melee combat is not inevitable for a SBD. IF the droids ever did have to engage in melee combat (for god knows what reason), it would be reasonable just to sacrifice that droid and have the next one in line (or, wherever) gun down whoever just sliced up the first SBD.
Get smart, dumbass. You ignored pages of rebuttals with nothing but repetitions of your original argument--just like DarkStar. You are essentially a pro-SW version of RSA, from what I can tell on this thread. This is ridiculous. Shut the hell up and start comprehending what people are telling you.