Moderator: NecronLord
That's most definitely not true. You CAN change stuff. Remember? Caramon and Tas went back in time and stopped Raistlin before he changed the world into a shattered husk.lgot wrote:Raistlin time travel is worthless. The description of the spell clearly say it was created and used only for study, because a mage cannt change the past with that, so You cannt use it to win a battle you already lost or something alike.
Now, in other hand, Dragolance, Forgoten, etc (TSR worlds) are usually in material to use more abundant than LoTR. We have spells and creatures that LoTR have not (but the elfs of LoTR are much superior to those of Krynn and so are the dragons). When TSR mages and clerics can bring back people from death, teleport, wish, etc LoTR lack this, because their magic is much more a form o wisdow than pure spellcasting.
In other hands we have in Lotr a lot of godlike beings like Gandalf, Sauron and the first to create this and in TSR we have some kick-ass gods as well.
If LoTR is going to invade Krynn, before the cataclysm or after the War of the lance - when we really have in krynn a good number of powerful mortals and Lord Soth, then Krynn won. Now the invasion of Krynn over Middleearth then it would be hard. If was all forgotten doing that then i TSR beings would overpower their "fathers" in Middle earth.
You must read it again. They only changed the past because of Tas. Read the spell "Only dwarves, Gnomes and kenders can do it because they are created outside the normal flow of time".That's most definitely not true. You CAN change stuff. Remember? Caramon and Tas went back in time and stopped Raistlin before he changed the world into a shattered husk.
Astinus said you couldn't, but he was wrong when Crysania entered the Trance. After that episode, Raistlin realized that you COULD change the future.
But my point still stands. It IS capable of changing the future by modifying the past. Granted, Raistlin may not be able to do it alone, but we are talking about all of DL versus all of LotR.lgot wrote:
You must read it again. They only changed the past because of Tas. Read the spell "Only dwarves, Gnomes and kenders can do it because they are created outside the normal flow of time".
All the changes happened due Tas and the gnome influence.
Like he did not with Tas. Right ? There was a point that the kender was manipulated by him, but ended doing something else, due his kender nature.I agree that Raisltin does not have control over a Kender. However, he is a master of manipuation (he played Crysania like a piano), and I believe that he could manipulate the kender to do what he wants.
He is not. He failed to predict it everytime. You notice that he even prefer to kill him and the gnome to avoid the interference, exactly because he could not control it ?And I believe he is intelligent enough to figure out what changes to make.
Well, I am just pointing that the time travel is a fail as weapon. He have others. He might be able to hand Gandalf for while and Saruman. But all the LoTR ? After all, like i said TSR mages have a different spell power than LoTR.That being said, even without Time Travel, Raistlin would be a handful for LotR. He is more than a match for Gandalf or Saruman, and I honestly believe that he could tear down the Valar as well. It's proven that he single handedly destroyed the DL pavilion of Gods; there's no reason why he couldn't repeat his success against LotR.