To prove a point

[Jack Lain]

We all know that a real hair, ripped shirt, with blood in the corner of his mouth, Kirk beats the fucking hell out of an ISD! Single-handed.

Nothing can compete with this image of Kirk. Even Palpy, in all his glory would fall to the kirk-fu and die a terrible death. Hell, he was picked up by his second and thrown into the pit.

Now we can debate that Kirk can get that close. Ok, fine. But a Kirk in the shape I listed above is immortal.

Give it up SW, you lose versus the one on one Kirk fight. Muhahahah! ;)

[Captain Cyran]

Kirk vs. Death Star, Kirk punches Death Star, Death Star blows up. Palpy grumbles about Kirk's damned ripped shirt.

[Howedar]

We all know that a real hair, ripped shirt, with blood in the corner of his mouth, Kirk beats the fucking hell out of an ISD! Single-handed.

Nothing can compete with this image of Kirk. Even Palpy, in all his glory would fall to the kirk-fu and die a terrible death. Hell, he was picked up by his second and thrown into the pit.

Now we can debate that Kirk can get that close. Ok, fine. But a Kirk in the shape I listed above is immortal.

Give it up SW, you lose versus the one on one Kirk fight. Muhahahah!

Wow, that is certainly worth posting.

[Mr Bean]

No we still have Uber invicible Solo or Super Wedge the man who can not die as long as he's in an X-wing or

Wes-Janson
The one who shall defeat them all!

[jegs2]

SuperKirk vs. a Super Star Destroyer.... Kirk glares and it explodes.

[Cpt_Frank]

Well the main weakness of Kirk is first his shirt must be ripped for the invincibility to be activated, so the ISD would just vaporize him with a single shot, no way to rip the shirt anymore.

[Master of Ossus]

"The secret compartment in my shirt I fill with an underdog super-energy pill."

Yeah, the problem is that the shirt must be ripped, first. Perhaps that is why Picard was always tucking in the damn thing. He didn't want to be invincible.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Fuck character shields.

[Cpt_Frank]

I hate them too. They're unfair, and they work for the bad guys.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

I hate them too. They're unfair, and they work for the bad guys.

It's a bloody cop-out. "Duh, Kirk will rip his shirt and be invincible! Yeah!"

[Cpt_Frank]

Btw I meant they don't work for the bad guys.

[starfury]

Fuck character shields.

I hate them too, they allow all those fanatics to constantly spout stupid claims of stormtroopers are poor shots, can't beat teddy bears and the constant idea that Mr. star character would save the ass of their universe in a fight.

[Jack Lain]

Hmm. Had not considered that the shirt must be ripped first. I suppose that Kirk is above ripping his own shirt. Stupid Second Directive - no shirt ripping. Damn!

Stupid Kirk!

Well, anyway, have a day then.

[Cpt_Frank]

Btw, does the ripped shirt effect even come to bear when Kirk rips the shirt himself? Or if he cuts his face a bit so that the blood stain appears?
I for one think the shirt must be ripped by the enemy. Otherwise, it won't work.

[Crayz9000]

The entire Ripped-Shirt Kirk argument is a stupid copout, and doesn't have anything to do with a serious debate. I've been seeing a lot of these threads around here lately... and it's not making this place look very appealing.

Knock it off. This is exactly what happened with Spacebattle's VS forum, and why I left it. Everyone was debating about the strength of the character shields. Try to pit two characters, e.g. Han Solo and Captain Kirk against each other, and someone would reply "Well, Han Solo would rip Kirk's shirt, so therefore Kirk would win." From that point on, all seriousness would vanish.

Is that how we're going to debate ST vs SW? Why not just say ST gets help from the Culture?

Yes, I'm kind of in a bad mood; I've been doing damage control, trying to keep your pathetic reputation from going down faster than the Titanic on other forums. Unless GAT disagrees, thread closed.