I can't believe this stupidity!

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-04-10 08:02am

Read this and be stunned:

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/matt ... lth.0.html

It's sad but how can someone be so stupid?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-10 08:04am

Well, what do you expect from somebody who worship a god that creates animals by lumping together LEGO and pumpkins?

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-04-10 08:05am

LOL

Good point!

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2003-04-10 08:42am

This is GOD DAMNED insane.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-10 09:09am

From the article:

Before the emergency hysterectomy was carried out, the couple were advised by doctors that a blood transfusion would be necessary and could make the difference between life and death.

However, they both said no and a form was filled out to say no blood products were to be used during treatment because of their religious faith.

After the surgery Mrs Edema was placed on a dialysis and a life support machine in the intensive care unit, where she died on the Thursday at 12.40am.

In a statement recalling the events that led up to his wife's death, Mr Edema said: "I am now left alone on a strange terrain to cater for my two daughters as a single parent. All my wife's ambitions and inspirations have been nipped in the bud. Can my life be the same again?"

Fucking stupid Jehovah's Witnesses. This guy is complaining now about the tragedy, yet he signed a form stipulating that no blood products were to be used even after having been warned it might kill her? I don't mean to sound unsympathetic, but frankly, she deserved what she got, and he deserves to be left alone and miserable. My only sympathy is with their first daughter, who must now grow up without a mother because of their fucking religious stupidity.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-04-10 09:15am

Once again the naïv beliefs of human beings leave me speechless due to their incredible stupidity.

It's a wonder hospitals even bother with these people, they obviously don't want the latest medical science to be used.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-04-10 09:26am

This is one of those instances that makes me really, really mad. Because in this case, while a couple of idiots got theirs, perfectly innocent people are caught in the crossfire and are bound to suffer because of it.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-10 09:41am

Darth Wong wrote: I don't mean to sound unsympathetic, but frankly, she deserved what she got, and he deserves to be left alone and miserable. My only sympathy is with their first daughter, who must now grow up without a mother because of their fucking religious stupidity.

Hey cool, can I use this line of reasoning in the future with
stupid fucknut burgulars who get shot to death in the process
of carrying a TV out the window of people's houses in Georgia?

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-04-10 12:24pm

Just another example of natural selection in action. Who knows? This could lead to the extinction of the Jehovah Witness(Homo sapiens sapiens idiot Jehovahensis)!!!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-04-10 12:35pm

That's just stupid. They both deserve what they got. I'm just worried about the kids.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-04-10 12:49pm

Stupid bitch. Now her child will have to grow up without a mother because she was so fucking selfish so as to ignore the possible needs of her children and family.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-04-10 12:52pm

Boba Fett wrote:Read this and be stunned:

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/matt ... lth.0.html

It's sad but how can someone be so stupid?

I would be interested in finding out what part of the Bible (or Book of Mormon) they felt was against their using a blood transfusion.

Cej4096 · Post by **Cej4096** » 2003-04-10 01:20pm

jegs2 wrote: I would be interested in finding out what part of the Bible (or Book of Mormon) they felt was against their using a blood transfusion.

According to Skeptic's Annotated Bible it's Genesis 9:4

But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Apparently JWs consider blood transfusions to be a form of "eating blood" and forbidden by God.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-04-10 03:05pm

Cej4096 wrote:
jegs2 wrote: I would be interested in finding out what part of the Bible (or Book of Mormon) they felt was against their using a blood transfusion.
According to Skeptic's Annotated Bible it's Genesis 9:4

But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Apparently JWs consider blood transfusions to be a form of "eating blood" and forbidden by God.

That has to do with actually consuming blood from animals -- i.e. drinking it from a cup or something to that effect. Those folks are badly misinformed.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-04-10 03:49pm

Yet another reason to slam the door in their faces...I hope the kid can be given up for adoption, so she can have some responsible parents...

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-10 03:52pm

Idiots, idiots, idiots.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-10 03:54pm

jegs2 wrote:I would be interested in finding out what part of the Bible (or Book of Mormon) they felt was against their using a blood transfusion.

Don't get your religions confused. Only the Mormons (and a few of that church's splinter groups) use The Book of Mormon. The JWs are strictly just the Bible.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-10 04:46pm

Darth Wong wrote:Fucking stupid Jehovah's Witnesses. This guy is complaining now about the tragedy, yet he signed a form stipulating that no blood products were to be used even after having been warned it might kill her? I don't mean to sound unsympathetic, but frankly, she deserved what she got, and he deserves to be left alone and miserable. My only sympathy is with their first daughter, who must now grow up without a mother because of their fucking religious stupidity.

To make things worse, the religion's publications (Watchtower or Awake) will undoubtably praise the guy for his great faith and sacrifice and use this incident to continue urging "the faithful" in this absurd behavior: "Look, this guy held true to the faith and sacrificed. So can you."

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-10 05:03pm

In a statement recalling the events that led up to his wife's death, Mr Edema said: "I am now left alone on a strange terrain to cater for my two daughters as a single parent. All my wife's ambitions and inspirations have been nipped in the bud. Can my life be the same again?"

Did anyone else find the irony in this last paragraph? YOU DECIDED SHE WAS GOING TO DIE! You brought it on yourselves. Let's hope all that Jesus talk you spew from your fundie mouths is true, because if not you signed her death warrant for no reason at all.

What I want to know is this: If they're going to stop doctors from saving lives, what's the point of going to a fucking hospital in the first place? What, are you afraid that birthing your child yourself would be too dangerous? Yeah, hell of a way to show a regard for human life! Are you afraid that natural childbirth is too painful? Oh, so the DRUGS are good enough to put in your body, but BLOOD isn't? SOMEONE tell me they see the ridiculousness of this situation.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-04-10 05:04pm

Darth Servo wrote:
jegs2 wrote:I would be interested in finding out what part of the Bible (or Book of Mormon) they felt was against their using a blood transfusion.
Don't get your religions confused. Only the Mormons (and a few of that church's splinter groups) use The Book of Mormon. The JWs are strictly just the Bible.

Thanks for the correction. I often get confused between the two. I know that the JWs do tend to use a different Bible version than all others...

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-10 05:18pm

jegs2 wrote:Thanks for the correction. I often get confused between the two. I know that the JWs do tend to use a different Bible version than all others...

The JWs have their own translation of the Bible which is pretty damn bad. The real reason the JWs call their Bible the "New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures" is because their "translation" is sooo bad that I believe copyright laws prohibit them from using the term "Bible" in the title.

The Book of Mormon is a completely different book with different stories, not an "alternate translation" of the Bible.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-04-10 05:30pm

Darth Servo wrote:The Book of Mormon is a completely different book with different stories, not an "alternate translation" of the Bible.

Quite right, you are. I attended the Combined Arms Services Staff School (CAS cubed) at Fort Leavenworth years ago, and my next door neighbor (we shared a kitchen and bathroom) was a Mormon (or Latter-day Saint), and he have me a Book of Mormon. I told him I'd read it some day, but I still haven't got around to doing so...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-10 05:36pm

jegs2 wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:The Book of Mormon is a completely different book with different stories, not an "alternate translation" of the Bible.
Quite right, you are. I attended the Combined Arms Services Staff School (CAS cubed) at Fort Leavenworth years ago, and my next door neighbor (we shared a kitchen and bathroom) was a Mormon (or Latter-day Saint), and he have me a Book of Mormon. I told him I'd read it some day, but I still haven't got around to doing so...

The founder of the Mormon church was a white-supremacist, whose dogma that white people are closer to God and that "whiteness" is spiritual cleanliness persisted up until the late 1970's. Coincidentally enough, the "latter-day saints" suddenly realized that white-supremacism was bad at the same time that the IRS was cracking down on white-supremacist religious and academic organizations and removing their tax-exempt status.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-10 05:59pm

Darth Wong wrote:The founder of the Mormon church was a white-supremacist, whose dogma that white people are closer to God and that "whiteness" is spiritual cleanliness persisted up until the late 1970's. Coincidentally enough, the "latter-day saints" suddenly realized that white-supremacism was bad at the same time that the IRS was cracking down on white-supremacist religious and academic organizations and removing their tax-exempt status.

It's funny, 'cuz even in Massachusetts they're still White Supremacists. There's one black family in my neighborhood (Classism at work) and every time the CoJCoLS comes around, they always have something to say about "that black family at the top of the hill," and, "gosh do they smell funny!" and "their house isn't NEARLY as big as the other ones around here." Neither of those is true. I happen to be very good friends with that family, and they're PERFECTLY nice people, though devout Christians.

By contrast, they never have anything to say about the white family next door to us that makes a habit out of pestering the Mormons.

...Not that I'm any better...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-04-10 07:16pm

I am good friends with a lot of Mormons. As a rule, they are no more discriminatory than you or I.

Not to dispute that there are crazies out there, but lumping all Mormons in that category is probably somewhat extreme.

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