So I saw a few minutes of Enterprise

Luke Starkiller · Post by **Luke Starkiller** » 2003-04-09 08:32pm

It wasn't too bad, there was a Klingon lawyer talking about the different divisions of Klingon culture and how the Warriors were taking over and destroying their system of honour.

Then Archer was convicted of something, had the death sentence commuted and was condemned to Rura Penthe.

I walked back out.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-04-09 08:36pm

What next will they have the Duras family conspiring with the Romulans against the Klingon empire?

Luke Starkiller · Post by **Luke Starkiller** » 2003-04-09 08:39pm

Oh, I think the reason that Archer as on trial was something to do with a Captain Duras.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-04-09 08:43pm

Luke Starkiller wrote:Oh, I think the reason that Archer as on trial was something to do with a Captain Duras.

And they might do the weirdest linkage to TNG,by relating Archer to Riker with the ancestor bit.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-04-09 08:45pm

I guess B&B are trying to use the first 6 ST movies for Enterprise material.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-04-09 08:47pm

paladin wrote:I guess B&B are trying to use the first 6 ST movies for Enterprise material.

You mean we might see the Botany Bay?

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-04-09 08:51pm

Montcalm wrote:
paladin wrote:I guess B&B are trying to use the first 6 ST movies for Enterprise material.
You mean we might see the Botany Bay?

I wouldn't be surprised if we do.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-04-09 08:55pm

While it did "borrow" somewhat from ST 6 it was more or less inoffensive and the little sidenote on the decline of Klingon society plus the decent as always acting from J.G. Hertzler made the episode more or less ok.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-04-09 09:31pm

How did the episode end. I missed the rest of this POS.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-04-09 09:33pm

Spoiler:

Reed rescued Archer from the prison but Kolos remained behind so that he may one day help bring honour back to the Klingon people.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-04-10 12:58am

It was okay. It was a total rip off of ST 6 though...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-04-10 02:22am

I thought the D5 was okay, not great, just okay. Better than recycling a D7 like they did in that one ep.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-04-10 03:28am

OIIIIII another reason NOT to watch Bobbyprise or quantum Trek........

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-04-10 03:54am

Typhonis 1 wrote:OIIIIII another reason NOT to watch Bobbyprise or quantum Trek........

I've seen a sketch for a design for the new Klingon Battlecruiser, it was basicly a D7 with a smaller shuttlebay and WIRE BRACING for the command pod's boom. Look!
This thing is supposed to be 100 years older than the TOS D7s?

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-04-10 07:16am

Not bad but still It would be much better if B&B could come up with real origional ideas of their own and not ripping them off from other series.

But then again It's what we have learn to expect from the two stupid slugs anyway.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-10 08:02am

Why didn't they have translators? Kirk needed translators

seanrobertson · Post by **seanrobertson** » 2003-04-10 10:03am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Why didn't they have translators? Kirk needed translators

Yep--whoops

I enjoyed the episode, myself, even if it did lift a bit too heavily from Trek VI. J.G. Hertzler was outstanding.

Ajaz50 · Post by **Ajaz50** » 2003-04-10 05:43pm

It was an okay epasode, the problom is that they don't have good writers for entaprise. I still can't get over the epasode where its a transporter dream, if that isn't the oldest, most used and worst story twist ever, I don't know what is. There are proboly people here who could write better epasodes, this epasode was just one more example, they can't figure out how to write so they have fun messing arround with a privious script, half the epasodes are like that....

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-04-10 06:07pm

It seemed to me like this was an attempt to make an anti-war statement by B&B and they really messd it up.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-04-10 07:50pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:It seemed to me like this was an attempt to make an anti-war statement by B&B and they really messd it up.

ok.... what did I miss, because I didn't spot that apart from the bit about the warriors taking over which hardly constitutes a statement.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-04-10 07:55pm

It was right before Archer was sentenced and he was talking to his lawyer. It just came off as typical B&B bull.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-04-10 08:08pm

Montcalm wrote:
paladin wrote:I guess B&B are trying to use the first 6 ST movies for Enterprise material.
You mean we might see the Botany Bay?

Or the Voyager probe -- oooh, they'd like that, wouldn't they!

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-04-10 08:11pm

Ajaz50 wrote:It was an okay epasode, the problom is that they don't have good writers for entaprise. I still can't get over the epasode where its a transporter dream, if that isn't the oldest, most used and worst story twist ever, I don't know what is. There are proboly people here who could write better epasodes, this epasode was just one more example, they can't figure out how to write so they have fun messing arround with a privious script, half the epasodes are like that....

In fact, aside from Beavis & Butthead, they don't really have writers for Enterprise. Period. Those pickleheads are in control of practically everything creatively on that show. And the fact is that they are simply not creative.

About the only thing they know is what to steal -- knowing what to do with material once they've stolen it is even beyond them.

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-04-11 08:27am

I enjoyed it. The space battle was kind of cool, but the rest is a little boring. These klingons managed not to say something violent every 3 seconds or so. I liked that. But i want the smart, cunning, cool Klingons from TOS!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-11 09:17am

Frank Hipper wrote:I thought the D5 was okay, not great, just okay. Better than recycling a D7 like they did in that one ep.

That was indeed an unfortunate incident.

According to (I think) the head of the model crew for Enterprise, they did have the design sketches for the ship done for the series premeir ("Broken Bow"), which is what you show in that other post of yours.

The major problem was that they had done so much work making models and stuff for BB and part of season one that they didn't have enough time and were too exhausted to build the new Klingon ship, so they were forced to use the K'Tinga model, even though it was supposed to be a totally different ship design.

Tragic, huh?