Christian Soldiers stand ready to Convert Iraq

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2003-04-10 10:47pm

Warspite wrote:Bah, let them go... They'll be slapped by reality the minute they start their bullshit. They'll have a mMuslim mob chasing them right back into whichever airport they came.

Unless Coalition troops are forced to protect their sorry asses.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-10 10:51pm

Newtonian Fury wrote:
Warspite wrote:Bah, let them go... They'll be slapped by reality the minute they start their bullshit. They'll have a mMuslim mob chasing them right back into whichever airport they came.
Unless Coalition troops are forced to protect their sorry asses.

Most likely the Iraqis will perceive the "spiritual soldiers" as being supported by the occupying military forces, and won't touch them for fear of reprisals.

The Iraqis will no doubt be highly receptive to the notion that George Bush conducted this war for two reasons: oil and Christianity. They will conclude that they must meekly accept the presence of these missionaries.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-04-10 10:56pm

Will these "missionaries do what they allways does go in put a cross in the hands of the local population and tell them "you must worship this"

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-10 11:25pm

Yep. We're gonna hear Dubya come on the air during Friends again and say something along the lines of, "I have sent a troop of Religious Liberators to free the Iraqi people from a vengeful, tyrant, heretic god."

And Ashcroft looked upon it, and it was good.

Post by **Edi** » 2003-04-11 01:13am

If the State Department and the Pentagon don't harshly crush this shit under a boot heel, we can kiss goodbye to any sort of constructive resolution to the mess that the region is, and Iraq will likely just go down the shitter. The American government, even at the risk of offending the Religious Reich, must tell them in no uncertain terms to fuck off and stop sabotaging things.

Threat to national security, and aiding and abetting the enemy (Muslim terrorists), anyone? Because whatthose fuckwads are doing does fit that description, and the fundie assholes are doing it intentionally, directly against American national interests. Do we have support?

Edi

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-11 02:11am

Well, to be fair, if they can do in a manner that is still respectful of the Iraqis and doesn't shove Christian doctrine down their throats at every opportunity, then there probably won't be a problem.

In fact, I would think a converted nation of Southern Baptists might be somewhat more reasonable than a nation of Muslims, but that's just my opinion.

The Nice Guy

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-11 02:15am

The_Nice_Guy wrote:Well, to be fair, if they can do in a manner that is still respectful of the Iraqis and doesn't shove Christian doctrine down their throats at every opportunity, then there probably won't be a problem.

That's like saying that it would be OK to have a rabid wolverine in your bedroom as long as he behaves himself.

In fact, I would think a converted nation of Southern Baptists might be somewhat more reasonable than a nation of Muslims, but that's just my opinion.

One word: crusade.

Southern baptists are not presently an immediate threat to life and liberty for only one reason: the laws of this country hold them back. Take that away, and you will see their hatred and evil in its full glory.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-04-11 02:16am

Well twelve years ago the ones that went to Kuwait got as far as Saudi Arabia & Turkey before being deported.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-04-11 03:59am

Hmm, This all proves that Dubya is more cunning than we thought. By succesfully invading Iraq, he can encourage the wholesale export of Fundie morons to Iraq, who will be all get shot. Thus America is freed, in time, from the yoke of christian fundiism.

Yuri Prime · Post by **Yuri Prime** » 2003-04-11 04:07am

Sounds like a job for the Conversion Resistance Force. Too bad it doesn't exist.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-04-11 07:20am

Oh great now the war really looks like a crusade.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-11 07:47am

Very bad idea. Dear oh deary me. Trying that stuff in Indonesia is dangerous- Iraq ... och.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-04-11 07:49am

Vympel wrote:Very bad idea. Dear oh deary me. Trying that stuff in Indonesia is dangerous- Iraq ... och.

But its a perfect way to kill off American fundie's..that has to be a good thing..

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-04-11 08:04am

It would be an interesting turn of events, nonetheless, loosing the operation by having disillusioned fundies on a "peacefull" crusade.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-11 08:06am

Darth Wong wrote: That's like saying that it would be OK to have a rabid wolverine in your bedroom as long as he behaves himself.

If there is such a thing as a behaving wolverine, it wouldn't be rabid, right? Matter of definition. Unless you're talking about the real one afflicted with rabies, in which case it's impossible for it to behave.

A Southern Baptist is quite different from a rabid wolverine, since the wolverine is rabid not by its own choice, but because it's infected. Unless you're saying religion is akin to a virus... I would say it's a false analogy.

One word: crusade.

Southern baptists are not presently an immediate threat to life and liberty for only one reason: the laws of this country hold them back. Take that away, and you will see their hatred and evil in its full glory.

And who's to say the laws in new Iraq would not be able to restrict them? Is there any actual evidence that Southern Baptists are the christian equivalent of Wahhabists?

Just how militant/stupid/violent are these guys anyway?

The Nice Guy

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-04-11 08:10am

The_Nice_Guy wrote:
One word: crusade.

Southern baptists are not presently an immediate threat to life and liberty for only one reason: the laws of this country hold them back. Take that away, and you will see their hatred and evil in its full glory.
And who's to say the laws in new Iraq would not be able to restrict them? Is there any actual evidence that Southern Baptists are the christian equivalent of Wahhabists?

Just how militant/stupid/violent are these guys anyway?

The Nice Guy

The Muslims aren't going to accept having Christians preaching in their territory, and these guys don't fool around, while only a few hundred of thousands Westerners would side with the Christians, the whole Muslim world would come crashing down on them.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-04-11 08:14am

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:U.S. missionaries plan 'spiritual warfare' when fighting ends
Good! Maybe the Iraqis will shoot these assholes instead of shooting at our troops.

We can only hope!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-11 12:19pm

The_Nice_Guy wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That's like saying that it would be OK to have a rabid wolverine in your bedroom as long as he behaves himself.
If there is such a thing as a behaving wolverine, it wouldn't be rabid, right? Matter of definition. Unless you're talking about the real one afflicted with rabies, in which case it's impossible for it to behave.

Precisely.

A Southern Baptist is quite different from a rabid wolverine, since the wolverine is rabid not by its own choice, but because it's infected. Unless you're saying religion is akin to a virus... I would say it's a false analogy.

Does the word "brainwashing" mean anything to you? "Lifelong indoctrination?"

And who's to say the laws in new Iraq would not be able to restrict them? Is there any actual evidence that Southern Baptists are the christian equivalent of Wahhabists?

Yes.

Just how militant/stupid/violent are these guys anyway?

Who do you think those fuckers are who harass, intimidate, and in some cases, murder abortion doctors? Who do you think the fuckers are who criminalize certain sexual acts in more than a dozen states because they violate Biblical beliefs, and are perfectly willing to throw people in prison because of acts committed in privacy between consenting adults? Who do you think the fuckers are who simultaneously preach "Thou shalt not kill" and cheer the death penalty because it's "an eye for an eye?" Who do you think the fuckers are who criminalize acts like flag-burning and cross-burning which, while offensive, also fail to objectively harm anyone? Who do you think the fuckers are who throw people in prison for violating "obscenity laws" that are just a euphemism for religious sexual oppression? Who do you think the fuckers are who make exemptions for religious people in child abuse/neglect laws? Are you fucking blind?

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-11 12:29pm

Are you fucking blind?

I don't live in the US, which accounts for why I don't know much about them. The christian population in my country is majority Roman Catholic, though the evangelists are growing in number(to my dismay; I get tired of fending off inquiries).

Interesting. Thank God I don't live in the United States.

Thanks for the enlightenment!

The Nice Guy

Enricko · Post by **Enricko** » 2003-04-11 01:32pm

I was hoping the Middle-East would calm down after the Iraq War, but if this takes any kind of proportions, oh for Pete's sake!

I forsee that there will be loads of Iraqi converts. Remember that Baptist chaplain who offered a bath to soldiers in exchange of conversion to his faith? Picture a dozen of so-called aid workers holding bags of food and crates of water, telling to starving Iraqi people: "I'll give ya food if ya take Jee'sus in yar 'eart!"

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-04-11 02:25pm

Queeb Salaron wrote:Whoa whoa whoa... The Middle East won't let non-Islamic LITERATURE into their countries, and they're gonna let MISSIONARIES in??

Iraq already has Christians. One of Saddam's top officials (forget his name, Aziz?) is/was Christian.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-04-11 02:27pm

Well, that's freedom of religion for you. Iraq was always a more secular state than its neighbours.

The Nice Guy

Cosmic Average · Post by **Cosmic Average** » 2003-04-11 02:32pm

There's already a Christian population in Iraq. One of the members of Saddam's cabinet was a Christian. It was a secular nation, under Saddam.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-04-11 03:12pm

Dammit, my mother is going to say that this is a good thing and will worship shrubby even more...

. I mean she approves of Ashcroft forcing his staff to pray, if the rumors are true.

[conspiracy]It was Shrubby's plan all along!!! We have not found any large caches of WMD, and it would be suicidal for Saddam to use them anyways. When Shrubby speaks of 'liberation' he means conversion of the Iraq populace!!![/conspiracy]

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-04-11 04:42pm

This is one instance where I'll be cheering for Islam. Maybe the missionaries will be executed for praising a false god like Jesus. Hey, if it's the "will of the Iraqi people," who are we to argue?

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