Zoink wrote:Don't the Norse gods have human frailty (ie. Thor could be killed by a regular guy with a sword), except Baldur of course.
I believe that it had to do with them needing to eat apples of something or other that gave them long life. Without it they would grow old. Or something.
Which brings up an interesting point: what if Immortality doesn't really mean you don't get old? What if it just means you can't die? Thus the apples of Idunn don't make immortality possible -- they just make it a lot more tolerable.
(Wonder what a 1,200 year old man would look like non-decomposed. Ewwww.)
Zoink wrote:Greeks win, they're like a superhero team: Lightning bolt dude, Invisible man, Aquaguy, Medusa-head wielding warrior babe... they've got the whole package. Although Ra, being the sun and all, might be a tough cookie.
But don't forget that most of the Aesir are shapeshifters with quasi-sentient weapons. Gotta love that.
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Stravo wrote:Norse gods are warriors through and through, and tough as nails. Fucking Odin pulled out his own eye just to get a little wisdom. I'd like to see Zeus pull a move like that if he can pull himself from his bestiality frolicks as he seduces women as some form of animal. Thor's hammer kills giants with a single blow, wimpy Hermes gets his front teeth knocked out by Mjolinir. C'mon, this is a slaughter. The Norse gods spent their entire lives preparing for a final battle that they knew they would lose.
Then why did they bother preparing when they could have had a kick ass time like the Greeks did?
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Stravo wrote:Norse gods are warriors through and through, and tough as nails. Fucking Odin pulled out his own eye just to get a little wisdom. I'd like to see Zeus pull a move like that if he can pull himself from his bestiality frolicks as he seduces women as some form of animal. Thor's hammer kills giants with a single blow, wimpy Hermes gets his front teeth knocked out by Mjolinir. C'mon, this is a slaughter. The Norse gods spent their entire lives preparing for a final battle that they knew they would lose.
Then why did they bother preparing when they could have had a kick ass time like the Greeks did?
Because fighting all day and drinking all night is what constitutes "having a kick-ass time" to the Aesir, apparently. Point against the Greek gods in this matchup -- the Aesir have been practicing for centuries.
Of course, I just now looked back and was reminded that all the pantheons are being pitted against YHWH-1. lol Still think ODN-1 will take it, seeing as his fate is already written, and it doesn't include being defeated by YWHW.
Darth Wong wrote:On the other hand, the Greek gods may have more raw power; it's been a while since I studied mythology but didn't Ragnarok get started by a piece of mistletoe or something?
Actually Ragnarok could only begin with the imprisonment of Loki. Being responible for the death of Baldar and his refusel to shed tears for Baldar, after Hel had agree with the Gods to let him return to life if every single thing shed tears for him.
Darth Wong wrote:
Greek gods win. They're the coolest.
They have the numerical advantage over everbody and that is before you start adding up the all of the various demi-gods, the remaining titans and other superhuman beings.
Darth Wong wrote:
Greek gods win. They're the coolest.
They have the numerical advantage over everbody and that is before you start adding up the all of the various demi-gods, the remaining titans and other superhuman beings.
The demigods would prove handy, but the Titans are imprisoned in Tartarus, being guarded by Briareus and his brothers(hundred armed giants and Zeus' bodyguard).
Both the Norse gods and Greek gods have been punting monsters around since the beginning. The Norse gods have Thor and Mjolnir(sp?). The Greeks have Heracles(Probably still pissed because noone seems to get his story straight. If he were around, he'd probably fulfil Lex Luthor's dream and split the San Andreas fault, just to get rid of Hollywood)
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Post #666: 5-24-03, 8:26 am (Hey, why not?)
Do you not believe in Thor, the Viking Thunder God? If not, then do you consider your state of disbelief in Thor to be a religion? Are you an AThorist?-Darth Wong on Atheism as a religion
Stravo wrote:Norse gods are warriors through and through, and tough as nails. Fucking Odin pulled out his own eye just to get a little wisdom. I'd like to see Zeus pull a move like that if he can pull himself from his bestiality frolicks as he seduces women as some form of animal. Thor's hammer kills giants with a single blow, wimpy Hermes gets his front teeth knocked out by Mjolinir. C'mon, this is a slaughter. The Norse gods spent their entire lives preparing for a final battle that they knew they would lose.
Ah but they DID lose, didn't they? Granted, after a kickass fight and they went out in a blast of MENTOSS Level-Coolness, but still.......
Actually, IIRC, Ragnarok ends in mutual destruction, almost. No giants survive, one Aesir survives (Odin's son Vidar -- the "Silent One") and two humans survive concealed within Yggdrasil (the World Tree). After the battle is done, the humans emerge and everything begins again clean.
It is also interesting to note the similarity between the Greek Titans and the Norse Jotun, or Frost Giants -- the first of which, Ymir, was slain, the world being composed of his corpse.
Darth Gojira wrote:Okay, say R(Q's evil, less annoying, fictional brother) decides to take out YHWH with ancient gods. He puts the Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Norse, and Greek gods in a big arena. It's a fight to the death. Who shall triumph? (Yes, I HAVE been playing too much AoM)
I thought of something. The gods of mythology were a pretty willful and very powerful(many myths have them creating the world and universe!) lot. The more powerful gods are probably are the same level as R, so he would be in for a RUDE awakening when he orders all those gods and goddesses to fight for his amusement!
Greek/roman gods hands down, Prometheus or Atlas could simply roll over and crush all the other gods, anyone that carries the entire universe on their back is gonna have some badass strength.
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YHWH may not win it, but he'll take quite a few of the other pantheons with him, as long as we accept the entire Bible as canon.
The Greek Gods can't match him in terms of individual power. Ares couldn't save Troy from destruction and Athena couldn't sack the city. YHWH destroyed two cities with lightning and fire and brimstone, easy. Before you all get started on the iron chariots, let me remind you that it was not God who was doing the fighting, it was Judah. And let's not forget God causing trumpets to throw down the walls of Jericho, or having Gideon win a massive battle with an numerically inferior force comprised entirely of morons.
He caused massive calamities; Dyionosus will be put out of the fight when all his wine turns to blood. Demeter is screwed by plagues of locusts.
The Norse gods had to create the world out of a giant. YHWH created it out of nothing. That's highly efficient resource management.
And then there's the angelic hosts, and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and the Archangel Michael, etc.etc.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Greek gods win. They're the coolest.
They have the numerical advantage over everbody and that is before you start adding up the all of the various demi-gods, the remaining titans and other superhuman beings.
The Hindu gods would have an even bigger numerical advantage if they were included. I think there's hundreds of deities in Hinduism.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Greek gods win. They're the coolest.
They have the numerical advantage over everbody and that is before you start adding up the all of the various demi-gods, the remaining titans and other superhuman beings.
The Hindu gods would have an even bigger numerical advantage if they were included. I think there's hundreds of deities in Hinduism.
I think the traditional answer is 6000, but I may be wrong. I haven't had a course in Hinduism for a year. One reckoning says it may have three million deities, though, which is a hundred times as many as the Greeks.
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Darth Gojira wrote:Okay, say R(Q's evil, less annoying, fictional brother) decides to take out YHWH with ancient gods. He puts the Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Norse, and Greek gods in a big arena. It's a fight to the death. Who shall triumph? (Yes, I HAVE been playing too much AoM)
I thought of something. The gods of mythology were a pretty willful and very powerful(many myths have them creating the world and universe!) lot. The more powerful gods are probably are the same level as R, so he would be in for a RUDE awakening when he orders all those gods and goddesses to fight for his amusement!
Bear with me here!
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Post #666: 5-24-03, 8:26 am (Hey, why not?)
Do you not believe in Thor, the Viking Thunder God? If not, then do you consider your state of disbelief in Thor to be a religion? Are you an AThorist?-Darth Wong on Atheism as a religion
Darth Wong wrote:
Greek gods win. They're the coolest.
They have the numerical advantage over everbody and that is before you start adding up the all of the various demi-gods, the remaining titans and other superhuman beings.
The Hindu gods would have an even bigger numerical advantage if they were included. I think there's hundreds of deities in Hinduism.
They have been here for ages, while the Greeks only had 1600 years before getting banned by those dammed Christians. Not to mention the Hindu religion seems pretty secure(despite the best efforts of the gruesome twosome: Islam and Christianity), that's why R's sending them in if the winners of this match fail.
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Post #666: 5-24-03, 8:26 am (Hey, why not?)
Do you not believe in Thor, the Viking Thunder God? If not, then do you consider your state of disbelief in Thor to be a religion? Are you an AThorist?-Darth Wong on Atheism as a religion
I have a question........................ Okay, I know Eris has the Apple of Discord........... but what about this Loki that I keep hearing about whenever this discussion is brought up? Who/what is Loki and what does he/she do?
