Does Trek has *any* advantage over Wars?

[The Admiral]

Once again the empire proves its to stupid to suvive, unless grand admiral Thrawn is around.

Admrial

[Kuja]

2) Begin able to go fater than light while still inside a planets gravity well, makeing them inmune to intrictors.

SW ships have that ability as well, it's just that the navicomputer won't allow it for safety reasons and must be overridden.

[Wild Karrde]

How did you guess?
There is one last thing I have to add, 2 more advatages.
1)Viewscreens.
2) Begin able to go fater than light while still inside a planets gravity well, makeing them inmune to intrictors.

Admiral

1. Star Wars has those.

2.In Dark Empire Han has the Falcon jump to hyperspace while still in Byss's upper atmosphere to escape before being trapped under the planetary sheild. It may not be nice to any ship that tries it but it still shows it can be done.

Also IIRC, the Bothans or Hapans came up with a device that defeats a gravity well to allow hyperspace inside of one (not sure on this one though).

[Kuja]

Once again the empire proves its to stupid to suvive, unless grand admiral Thrawn is around.

Admrial

Wow, one battle proves that the Empire is too stupid to survive.

[The Admiral]

Which takes time, unlike ST ships...
It seems a bit funny though, when people are "On no an interdictor"
Instead of "Turn the navicomp safty of and lets go"
???

Admiral

[Dalton]

Once again the empire proves its to stupid to suvive, unless grand admiral Thrawn is around.

I fail to see how you arrived at this conclusion. Especially since the Empire conquered most of the galaxy.

[Wild Karrde]

Which takes time, unlike ST ships...
It seems a bit funny though, when people are "On no an interdictor"
Instead of "Turn the navicomp safty of and lets go"
???

Admiral

it's a small price to pay for being able to travel over a hundred million times c. Compared to warp which is limited to several thousand c at the very most.

[The Admiral]

Top ten reasons why the empuire is to stupid to suvive.

1) the empire locked the Grand admirals in the quarters while DS2 was under attack
2)The first death starnever raised its schilds.
3)All there systems can be hacked by a r2 unit.
4)There bridges have a nice clear viewport to shoot offciers though.
5)they made a deal with the ssi-ruuk
6)They didn't blow up mon-cal, they bew up alldrean.
7)They don't know when to quit.
They lost to the rebels, after haveing the enitre galaxy.
9) the empire is run by a guy that wasn't even a captain at endor...
10)they let Incom defect.

Hows that?
Admiral

[Kuja]

Which takes time, unlike ST ships...
It seems a bit funny though, when people are "On no an interdictor"
Instead of "Turn the navicomp safty of and lets go"
???

Admiral

You don't get it, do you? There's a REASON the navicomputer overrides gravwelljumping: it's hell on the hyperdrive. In the Thrawn trilogy, Luke burned out his hyperdrive because he jumped from inside an interdiction field.

It CAN be done, but it's dangerous.

[Dalton]

Which takes time, unlike ST ships...

The Thrawn Trilogy disproves this notion. Karrde's ship made an emergency jump seconds after emerging from hyperspace when they ran into the Katana Fleet (Dark Force Rising).

It seems a bit funny though, when people are "On no an interdictor"
Instead of "Turn the navicomp safty of and lets go"
???

Interdictors can simulate stellar-level masses.

[The Admiral]

No, in the tran triogly, luke jumped just as he left, he did a spin on the stop manover which burn out his hyperdrve.
READ THE BOOK...
Even Thrawn says what happened quite clearly...
I hate it when people misquote books, and if you don't belive me I'll type the page up here.

Admiral

[Kuja]

Top ten reasons why the empuire is to stupid to suvive.

1) the empire locked the Grand admirals in the quarters while DS2 was under attack

One man's oversight.

2)The first death starnever raised its schilds.

One man's oversight.

3)All there systems can be hacked by a r2 unit.

R2 didn't HACK the Death Star. He accessed a information that was fully available to the men in the control station.

4)There bridges have a nice clear viewport to shoot offciers though.

Transparisteel can resist a blast from SW-level firepower (ref: Wraith Squadron) and you'll still have to down the shields first.

5)they made a deal with the ssi-ruuk

So?

6)They didn't blow up mon-cal, they bew up alldrean.

Alderaan was a warm-up. After taking Yavin 4, the DS would've gone on to other Rebel planets, like MonCal.

7)They don't know when to quit.

WTF?

They lost to the rebels, after haveing the enitre galaxy.

Wow, by your logic, everyone who loses is stupid.

9) the empire is run by a guy that wasn't even a captain at endor...

Which of course means that he could never rise higher in the ranks.

10)they let Incom defect.

They didn't let the WHOLE COMPANY defect, you imbecile! A few members of the X-wing design team did so! How the hell did Incom make the Raptor and the Howlrunner for the Empire if they defected?

Hows that?

Pathetic.

[Dalton]

Top ten reasons why the empuire is to stupid to suvive.

It conquered most of the galaxy. It would have survived had it not been for the Jedi.

1) the empire locked the Grand admirals in the quarters while DS2 was under attack

Evidence?

2)The first death starnever raised its schilds.

Wasting power raising shields against a couple of squadrons of starfighters is not stupid. It is, rather, arrogant.

3)All there systems can be hacked by a r2 unit.

R2 hacked the GARBAGE CONTROL SYSTEMS.

4)There bridges have a nice clear viewport to shoot offciers though.

Only after the bridge deflectors are knocked out and a fluke caused Crynyd's A-Wing to crash into it.

5)they made a deal with the ssi-ruuk

How does this make the Empire stupid?

6)They didn't blow up mon-cal, they bew up alldrean.

You know jack shit about Star Wars. The Mon Calamari were NOT in the Rebel Alliance during the time of A New Hope.

7)They don't know when to quit.

Yeah, they only conquered most of the galaxy.

They lost to the rebels, after haveing the enitre galaxy.

They lost to the Rebels AND the Jedi. If Luke was not there the Rebellion would have died. Did you NOT realize the MAJOR influencing role that the Force plays in the trilogy?

9) the empire is run by a guy that wasn't even a captain at endor...

False. Pellaeon led the FLEET, not the Government.

10)they let Incom defect.

Proof that the Empire LET them defect?

Hows that?
Admiral

Poor attempt.

[The Admiral]

1)OVERSIGHT, he loked up 8 of his best cmmanders in a station because?
2)One man, More like the entire death star crew, even though they new there was a weekness.
3)R2 has hacked more than that, read the books man...
4)But not concussion missles, as has happned many times.
5)And it lost them a planet.
6) Why not warm up on a ood target, as opposed to a peace loving world with no reason?
7) Have you ever heard of peace treatys...
Did you heere how small the rebels used to be?
9) But what happened to all the captain ect? Humm?
10) So why didn't they make X-wings, which kick ties?

Lets see what other people think shall we?
Admiral

[Dalton]

No, in the tran triogly, luke jumped just as he left, he did a spin on the stop manover which burn out his hyperdrve.
READ THE BOOK...
Even Thrawn says what happened quite clearly...
I hate it when people misquote books, and if you don't belive me I'll type the page up here.

A good offer, except for the travesty that is your epileptic typing.

[The Admiral]

1) Proof: the star wars cronogly book, I have a copy in my room.
2) But they knew there was a weekness...
3) I direct yo to the page above...
4) again to my prevoius post.
5) yet again...
6)and where did those MON-CAL starcrusers come from?
7)and lost it.
So the entire empire couldn't kill one jedi farm boy.. Hence stupid?
9) But e easyly infulenced and blackmailed them...
10) It says somehere (Admitly poor, I shall post it when I find the srcore i think its the untilmate guide to weapons and vericals.

Better?

Admiral
As for the post about Thrawn, My typeing skills need some work...

[Wild Karrde]

Top ten reasons why the empuire is to stupid to suvive.

1) the empire locked the Grand admirals in the quarters while DS2 was under attack
2)The first death starnever raised its schilds.
3)All there systems can be hacked by a r2 unit.
4)There bridges have a nice clear viewport to shoot offciers though.
5)they made a deal with the ssi-ruuk
6)They didn't blow up mon-cal, they bew up alldrean.
7)They don't know when to quit.
They lost to the rebels, after haveing the enitre galaxy.
9) the empire is run by a guy that wasn't even a captain at endor...
10)they let Incom defect.

Hows that?
Admiral

1.

2. It was in no danger from the rebel fighters with shields down and it never would have been if a fucking force user hadn't taking the killer shot. Not to mention the only reason Luke was able to take the shot was because Han had a change of heart at the last second.

3. R2 was only able to bring up a map and shut down an unimportant system (trash compactor). How the fuck does that equate to "All there systems can be hacked by a r2 unit"?

4. How the fuck are you going to shoot through sheilds, huh? Beides all Imperial ships have backup bridges and control of ship systems doesn't rely on bridge control like Fed ships do.

5. So? the Ssi-Ruk posed no threat.

6. Did you even watch the Movie? the DSI was on it's way to Yavin to blow up the main rebel base, Killing several key rebels and stopping the rebellion right there. Besides the DSII's first target was going to be Mon Cal anyway.

7. Proof?

8. Only due to the rebels being unaturally lucky and Palpatine foucusing a little to much on Skywalker.

9. WTF. the Empire is run by the Emperor.

10. No a handful of designers defected before they could do anything.

[Kuja]

1)OVERSIGHT, he loked up 8 of his best cmmanders in a station because?

Because he was overconfident.

2)One man, More like the entire death star crew, even though they new there was a weekness.

1. Proof that they knew.

2. Tarkin was in control of the station. Cross the Grand Moff at your own peril.

3)R2 has hacked more than that, read the books man...

Wow, your argument boils down to "Someone somehwere can hack the system! It must be pathetic!"

4)But not concussion missles, as has happned many times.

In that case, ST bridges are also stupid, since the RELIANT managed to blast the Ent's bridge pretty thouroghly.

5)And it lost them a planet.

As you are so fond of saying, read the book. The Ssi-ruuk attacked Bakura because the Empire backed out of the deal, not because they made a deal.

6) Why not warm up on a ood target, as opposed to a peace loving world with no reason?

It was symbolic. What makes a better show, blowing up an influential core world or a planet way out on the Outer Rim?

7) Have you ever heard of peace treatys...

Yeah. Your POINT?

8. Did you heere how small the rebels used to be?[.quote]

Did you hear that the Rebels were producing fleets of their own?

9) But what happened to all the captain ect? Humm?

Oh, OF COURSE all previous Captains must die for someone to be made a Captain. What are you, braindead?

10) So why didn't they make X-wings, which kick ties?

1. The defectors took the plans with them.

2. The Empire already had contracts with Sienar Fleet Systems for the TIE fighter.

[The Admiral]

For this, I direct all but point 6 to my other replys...
^) Backup bridge? What happen to the excutor?
So much for a back up bridge...

Admiral

[Kuja]

What happen to the excutor?
So much for a back up bridge...

Admiral

Wow, they were unable to retake control of the ship within what, ten seconds? Yeah, that's REALLY pathetic.

[Dalton]

1) Proof: the star wars cronogly book, I have a copy in my room.

OH YEAH I CONCEDE NOW.

Not.

POST THE PROOF CHUCKLES.

2) But they knew there was a weekness...

PROVE IT.

3) I direct yo to the page above...

And I direct you to post the evidence.

4) again to my prevoius post.

Again post the quotes.

5) yet again...

AGAIN post the quotes.

6)and where did those MON-CAL starcrusers come from?

Mon Cal, and they never showed up until RETURN OF THE FUCKING JEDI.

7)and lost it.

Fluke.

So the entire empire couldn't kill one jedi farm boy.. Hence stupid?

Oh yeah, killing Vader's son, real smart. Have you ever watched the movies? Seriously.

9) But e easyly infulenced and blackmailed them...

And? But? So? Therefore?

10) It says somehere (Admitly poor, I shall post it when I find the srcore i think its the untilmate guide to weapons and vericals.

I see.

Better?

No. Post some fucking quotes already.

As for the post about Thrawn, My typeing skills need some work...

A lot.

[Kuja]

1) Proof: the star wars cronogly book, I have a copy in my room.

OH YEAH I CONCEDE NOW.

Not.

POST THE PROOF CHUCKLES.

Rob, I can confirm that this part is somewhat true, insofar as that the Emperor did not allow the GAs to go out to the fleet (dunno about locking them in their rooms, tho)

[Wild Karrde]

For this, I direct all but point 6 to my other replys...
^) Backup bridge? What happen to the excutor?
So much for a back up bridge...

Admiral

Considering it had only seconds to regain control and could have suffered internal damge before this I don't see how this proves that the backup bridge didn't work.

[The Admiral]

And for 88's...
1), Hence stupid, 2) Hence stupid, of the rules or the empire do thins like that... And you are to scared to point it out, that proves my point.
3) No r2! Haced things, like the WAYLAND comps... You know GA Thrawns most inportant base, in how long? 10 seconds?
4) I know ST bridges are stupid... That isn't what my post is about...
5) But if instad of makeing a deal they attacked the ssi-ruuk
6) MOn_CAl is a infuential core world...
7) Ie, when you lose... Give up?
But not as big as the imprail navy.. Just assult there ship yards like mon cal...
9) But prevoius captains, get promted to admirals... and have to promet Pelleaon...and have more exprience...
10) Contracts? this is war... You know you ditch the contract and steal he better fighter?

Admiral

[The Admiral]

Wild Karrde...
It didn't need to regain control...
It need not to fly all the way over the the death star and ram it...
remeber the fleet was round endor move, and the waited in MG-7.
So how the the exutor got over and crahed before someone could you know...

*sigh*

Admiral