Stupid trekkies

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-04-09 12:27pm

[quote=Mythology]i still side with my esstial guide "weg book." not for the numbers and scales but not its views that the crosssection books do not have.[/quote]

Anyone here able to figure out what in the hells that statement says?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-09 01:54pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:
Mythology wrote:i still side with my esstial guide "weg book." not for the numbers and scales but not its views that the crosssection books do not have.
Anyone here able to figure out what in the hells that statement says?

Simple. He trusts the WEG illustrations more than the ICS.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-09 03:01pm

SirNitram wrote:
Keevan_Colton wrote:
Mythology wrote:i still side with my esstial guide "weg book." not for the numbers and scales but not its views that the crosssection books do not have.
Anyone here able to figure out what in the hells that statement says?
Simple. He trusts the WEG illustrations more than the ICS.

Even if the WEG ones are obviously wrong?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-04-09 03:25pm

Darth Servo wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Keevan_Colton wrote:Anyone here able to figure out what in the hells that statement says?
Simple. He trusts the WEG illustrations more than the ICS.
Even if the WEG ones are obviously wrong?

Given what I just read...I don't think he has much brain matter to figure what wrong or right, just whatever he feels is right, regardless.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-09 04:53pm

I especially liked when AzureDragon asked why the ships in Starwars don't get jolted around when they fire

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-04-09 07:39pm

We appear to have crushed the resistance.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » 2003-04-09 08:28pm

I followed the debate and it can be described in two words: IMPERIAL SMACKDOWN

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-04-09 09:23pm

Admiral to fleet, prepare to attck this new forum. Bring us to battlestations. Load all weapons and recall fighters. Prepare to enter hyperspace... now.

*a massive battle fleet enters hyperspace*

I just hope this will be enough to steralize that poor pathetic blob of a forum.

The horror, the horror.

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-13 03:51am

There is no way the enterprise could take down a ISD,
But I'm not sure about the ramming, if you get warp 9,9 from something like a cube, that has to be a LOT of engry...
Perhpas 2000, enterprises, take the Chimrua, now that I would like to see.

Admiral

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-15 05:30pm

The Admiral wrote:There is no way the enterprise could take down a ISD,
But I'm not sure about the ramming, if you get warp 9,9 from something like a cube, that has to be a LOT of engry...
Perhpas 2000, enterprises, take the Chimrua, now that I would like to see.

If warp ramming were anywhere near as effective a tactic you think it is, how come its never used on the show? And even if warp ramming were as effective as you would like it to be, if the Feds or the Borg won't warp ram their current enemies, they won't ram the imperials either.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-04-16 12:55am

The Admiral wrote:There is no way the enterprise could take down a ISD,
But I'm not sure about the ramming, if you get warp 9,9 from something like a cube, that has to be a LOT of engry...
Perhpas 2000, enterprises, take the Chimrua, now that I would like to see.

Admiral

Not with those mass-lightening fields. And cubes are mostly empty space anyway.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-04-16 01:01am

Darth Yoshi wrote:And cubes are mostly empty space anyway.

Every time someone mentions that, I get a mental image of a Cube ramming an ISD and popping open on its bow like a balloon.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-04-16 01:18am

No Iggy more like an ISD shped hole allllllll the way through it and the ISD captain saying WTF???

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-16 02:15am

Oh well, I think the ramming tatic isn't used, because the borg never seem to think they are going to lose, and the fed's just don't like that sort of thing...
Aslo it would mess up the plot if when the borg came to earth, at wolf 359 one fed ship rammed cube...
End of strory, not going to get my viewers...

Ensign 7th Class Asshat (Recently demoted)

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2003-04-16 02:32am

Borg cube/Enterprise-Any/ST ships doing the 'Warp Ram' on ISDs is not practical, not only because ST ships are weaker, but also because the ISDs will jam the ST ships, making the ST ships do a blind run; the ISDs can also sense the ST ships beforehand and prepare, and if the ST ships are THAT desperate to ram it is likely that they've already had their asses BASHED so hard that one shot would take them out easily.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-04-16 04:52am

Typhonis 1 wrote:No Iggy more like an ISD shped hole allllllll the way through it and the ISD captain saying WTF???

You know a Borg cube is mostly empty space

See my calcs on that hereBorg Density

you may have to scroll down to see it.

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-16 05:59am

Unless the ST ships had read this webpage, and realised that ramming was the only way they were going to do ANY damage...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-04-16 11:09am

The Admiral wrote:There is no way the enterprise could take down a ISD,
But I'm not sure about the ramming, if you get warp 9,9 from something like a cube, that has to be a LOT of engry...
Perhpas 2000, enterprises, take the Chimrua, now that I would like to see.

Admiral

Please preform a calc for a FTL collision. No, really, I want to see it and see how warp ramming would do anything.

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-16 11:18am

My calculation, isn't that good.
If anyone else thinks they can have a go they are welcome though.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-16 11:29am

The Admiral wrote:Oh well, I think the ramming tatic isn't used, because the borg never seem to think they are going to lose

So how come they never tried warp ramming against S8427 where they KNEW they were not just losing but getting their borg asses handed to them? A cube did collide with one bioship, but the relative speeds of the two ships were NOT FTL.

and the fed's just don't like that sort of thing...

I repeat: if they won't do it against their current enemies (even when they are in dire straights) they won't do it against the Empire either.

Aslo it would mess up the plot if when the borg came to earth, at wolf 359 one fed ship rammed cube...

You're kidding right? You take an event which never happened and pretend to know that it would "mess up the plot" clearly by assuming that a Fed ship ramming the cube would have caused significant damage to the cube.

You still have not provided one shred of evidence that this tactic is even possible.

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-16 11:33am

I just stated a bunch of reasons WHY THE TATIC isn't used...
hello? Do you get that, I'm argueing on your side...
Why its never used, and by who, I mean if you want to argue thats fine, and I to go faster than light in ST you have tom go to warp, the borg were clearly not in warp.
I have no idea what the point of you posting that was.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-16 01:02pm

The Admiral wrote:I just stated a bunch of reasons WHY THE TATIC isn't used...

And your reason was totally inapplicable against S8472 when the borg KNEW they were getting ass raped.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-04-16 02:01pm

Typhonis 1 wrote:No Iggy more like an ISD shped hole allllllll the way through it and the ISD captain saying WTF???

If they had Borg Space Monkeys, they could try to surround the ship with that lattice of theirs (by crashing and basically becoming ISD packing material), they could send all the Borg monkeys with wrenches (they would be monkey-wrenches) and try to disassemble the ISD as fast as they could while they're distracted...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-04-16 02:05pm

The Admiral wrote:I just stated a bunch of reasons WHY THE TATIC isn't used...
hello? Do you get that, I'm argueing on your side...

No, he's arguing that it isn't used because it WOULDN'T WORK. You're arguing AGAINST him, saying that it isn't used because they're being nice to the Feds, or because they never lose (which is a lie).

In other words, you're trying to argue that it COULD work but for some reason they're holding back, which is bullshit in these debates.

The Admiral · Post by **The Admiral** » 2003-04-16 02:35pm

But true Bullshit in this case.