If Marina ruled the US

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-17 12:03pm

Oh, incidentally, after reading the DDX thread, my first proposed new class of ship will be a cruiser-sized vessel built primarily to provide gunnery support.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-17 12:12pm

I need a position.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-17 12:14pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Oh, incidentally, after reading the DDX thread, my first proposed new class of ship will be a cruiser-sized vessel built primarily to provide gunnery support.

Dude, you stole my idea and you know it.. Besides, I'm having you assasinated; if you're stupid idea for an Imperial Sea Destroyer doesn't kill you first.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-17 12:19pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Oh, incidentally, after reading the DDX thread, my first proposed new class of ship will be a cruiser-sized vessel built primarily to provide gunnery support.

Even Marina's DOD budget isn't infinate, so be careful about over-specializing warships

One or two 8" in single or twin mounts should suffice (maybe even 155mm AGS). Probably some VLS cells for ESSM (self-defense) and TLAM. I don't think Aegis is needed for this, though carrying SM2/SM3 should be an option once CEC gets its kinks worked out.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-17 12:20pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.

You can be an E-3C pilot.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-04-17 01:31pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.

Try asking Wong. He can find a position for you. The only one I can think of off of the top of my head is "Missionary".

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-04-17 02:06pm

I want to be in something that involves either Ninjas or Explosives, preferrably both at once.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-04-17 02:06pm

after all you never know when you might need exploding ninjas

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-17 02:16pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.

Sure, get in the cannon. You can be part of our first line of defense.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-04-17 02:19pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.
Sure, get in the cannon. You can be part of our first line of defense.

Finally, a use for the newbies and suckups

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-04-17 02:23pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.

You can come work for our rapidly growing adult video company where you can clean the sex toys and dispose of the used condoms.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-04-17 02:24pm

aerius wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.
You can come work for our rapidly growing adult video company where you can clean the sex toys and dispose of the used condoms.

No assistants for you.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-17 02:50pm

Ooh! Ooh! I thought of something else! On top of my being the Director of Homeland Security, can I also be the offical "Zap Branagan" of Marina's regime! Just so I can say stuff like:

"Well, if it isn't the luscious Leela... this is turning into one sexy struggle for the future of humanity."

It's always been my dream to be a cheesy Kirk parody, and this *sniff* is my chance.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-17 03:35pm

aerius wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.
You can come work for our rapidly growing adult video company where you can clean the sex toys and dispose of the used condoms.

Your dead. Be quiet.

Anyone who points out it should be you're will also die.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-17 03:36pm

phongn wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.
You can be an E-3C pilot.

No violence.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-17 03:41pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
phongn wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I need a position.
You can be an E-3C pilot.
No violence.

You direct the violence.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-17 03:42pm

But I don't kill directly.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-17 03:45pm

Then you should take my advice. There is nothing more personally violent or patriotic than climbing in a giant cannon and behind hurled at our great nations enemies at a fantastic velocity.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-17 03:46pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Then you should take my advice. There is nothing more personally violent or patriotic than climbing in a giant cannon and behind hurled at our great nations enemies at a fantastic velocity.

We need to set up the Office of Necromancy so we can resurrect Bull and get some new Manji-esque supercannon

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-17 03:54pm

phongn wrote:We need to set up the Office of Necromancy so we can resurrect Bull and get some new Manji-esque supercannon

That sounds like a third hat to me. Hrm... being a Director of Homeland Security, Zap Branagan, and a Necromancer that allows us to constantly ressurrect ammo for our Manjiworks supercannon. I like it.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-17 04:03pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote: Oh, and let's throw in a lot of military recruitment advertising, and give the grunts a raise while we're at it. We're going to want a large high-morale army in the years to come. (Toys aren't everything Shep!)

Tell that to our enemies who go up against our M1A2s in T-55s

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-17 04:38pm

Stormbringer: Are you illiterate? I'm not building any Imperial Sea Destroyers. As for stealing your idea, hey, I'm boss of the Navy! I can do that! Now quit your yapping, lest I bomb your house.

Phong: Thanks for the input. I'm thinking two 8'' in single turrets, one up front and one in the back. As for the budget, I don't think we'll exactly need vast numbers of these ships. It's just a hole in our lineup that could use filling. And hey, I have to imagine shells are cheaper than cruise missiles. Over the long haul it may save us a few bucks.

Basically, rather than going apeshit, I just want to take the existing Navy and tweak a thing or two. Some things I would like to do are already underway, like replacing our oldest carriers with CVNX. (I do want a massive buy of Raptors and JSFs though, budget be damned! Please Marina? Please please pretty please???)

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-04-17 05:29pm

Connor MacLeod wrote:after all you never know when you might need exploding ninjas

Hell yes! Its never too late for exploding ninjas! keyaaw XO Kablewy

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-17 05:38pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Phong: Thanks for the input. I'm thinking two 8'' in single turrets, one up front and one in the back. As for the budget, I don't think we'll exactly need vast numbers of these ships. It's just a hole in our lineup that could use filling. And hey, I have to imagine shells are cheaper than cruise missiles. Over the long haul it may save us a few bucks.

Not neccessarily. A small production run of these limited-use warships will probably inflate unit costs. DD21 was cancelled in part because it was too limited in use (it's combat systems were FUBAR, but that's another issue entirely). If you really wanted to, you could attempt to refit the Spruances with a lightweight 8" gun.

Shells are cheaper than cruise missiles or even low-cost land-attack missiles like Harpoon II or SLAM-ER, but also have their limitation.

Basically, rather than going apeshit, I just want to take the existing Navy and tweak a thing or two. Some things I would like to do are already underway, like replacing our oldest carriers with CVNX. (I do want a massive buy of Raptors and JSFs though, budget be damned! Please Marina? Please please pretty please???)

Navalised F-22 == the super expensive. You'll be much better off filling up the flattops' airwings in the meanwhile (which will probably take some years) and maybe opening the production lines for the A-6F and the F/A-14 line (which would also be obscenely expensive)

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-17 07:55pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Oh, incidentally, after reading the DDX thread, my first proposed new class of ship will be a cruiser-sized vessel built primarily to provide gunnery support.

Fuck guns, we'll easily afford an Arsenal ship for every one of our fifty ARG's loaded with nothing but unitary GMLRS converted to POLAR.