If Marina ruled the US

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Stormbringer: Are you illiterate? I'm not building any Imperial Sea Destroyers. As for stealing your idea, hey, I'm boss of the Navy! I can do that! Now quit your yapping, lest I bomb your house.

Phong: Thanks for the input. I'm thinking two 8'' in single turrets, one up front and one in the back. As for the budget, I don't think we'll exactly need vast numbers of these ships. It's just a hole in our lineup that could use filling. And hey, I have to imagine shells are cheaper than cruise missiles. Over the long haul it may save us a few bucks.

Basically, rather than going apeshit, I just want to take the existing Navy and tweak a thing or two. Some things I would like to do are already underway, like replacing our oldest carriers with CVNX. (I do want a massive buy of Raptors and JSFs though, budget be damned! Please Marina? Please please pretty please???)

A navalized F-22? Also, unless you want to assinate the airforce, you'll have to work to get a lot of F-22s and F-35s.


I still need a job that is neither suicidal nor just flying a 747 with a giant saucer stuck on.

[phongn]

E-3C is based on the [old] 717 airframe (not the new 717, which is a modified DC-9).

How about an AL-1?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

E-3C is based on the [old] 717 airframe (not the new 717, which is a modified DC-9).

Ooh, I feel much better!

How about an AL-1?

No frontline military position. Not only does this make assination a thousand times easier (especially in a plane) but my rank would be pathetic.

[Stormbringer]

Stormbringer: Are you illiterate? I'm not building any Imperial Sea Destroyers. As for stealing your idea, hey, I'm boss of the Navy! I can do that! Now quit your yapping, lest I bomb your house.

You shut your yap! As for bombing my house, well I'm sure Shep's got outside your window.

[Sea Skimmer]

Basically, rather than going apeshit, I just want to take the existing Navy and tweak a thing or two. Some things I would like to do are already underway, like replacing our oldest carriers with CVNX. (I do want a massive buy of Raptors and JSFs though, budget be damned! Please Marina? Please please pretty please???)

I'm taking control of the fleet, your clearly a moron if you think the F-22 could every be viable for the Navy. You can transfer naval aircraft to shore operations, the opposite is a fucking huge pain if its even possibul with those that start on land.

My first order of businesses is renumbering. The F-35 is now the F-24, I'm sick of the US aircraft designation system being fucked by politics

[phongn]

X-35, F-35, what's the difference?

[Stormbringer]

I'm taking control of the fleet, your clearly a moron if you think the F-22 could every be viable for the Navy. You can transfer naval aircraft to shore operations, the opposite is a fucking huge pain if its even possibul with those that start on land.

My first order of businesses is renumbering. The F-35 is now the F-24, I'm sick of the US aircraft designation system being fucked by politics

Hey, I'm in command. I'd be happy to have you be the CNO though. And trust me, I'll listen to you.

[Beowulf]

Any more room for a high level guy in the government?

[Sea Skimmer]

X-35, F-35, what's the difference?

Nothing if you're Aldridge or Hough at a press conference without sufficient preparations. I also demand whoever in charge of the air force change the KC-767 to KC-42

[Stormbringer]

Any more room for a high level guy in the government?

Talk to Marina, she's the President for Life after all. We're just the minions.

[Sea Skimmer]

Not after my mass Silkworm attack from mobile truck launchers at
everything that remotely floats

Yes, the shitty knock off of an already shitty missile but one that blows huge holes in battleships. Hell, who doesn't like a missile that has about 30% accuracy against supertankers?

[phongn]

X-35, F-35, what's the difference?

Nothing if you're Aldridge or Hough at a press conference without sufficient preparations. I also demand whoever in charge of the air force change the KC-767 to KC-42

Wait, they're actually calling it the KC-767?

If you really want to be screwy, we could go back to the old numbering system, applied retroactively. If we really wanted to be cruel, we could use the old Navy system, or even split it again

Of course, this would mean the F/A-18 series would have a dozen different names depending on the manufacturing plant and what version it was and when it was built...

[aerius]

Any more room for a high level guy in the government?

A & W Video Productions Inc. has an opening in the video editing section. Due to the overwhelming popularity of the Mistress Marina's Lesbian Lovers series of videos and the shear amount of raw footage that we're getting ( ), we're now ready to release a bi-weekly TV series of the same name. With this new project underway, we'll need more editing guys to screen the raw footage for quality and edit it together in a tasteful and artistic way that'll be pleasing to the audience without offending our performers.

[phongn]

The computer industry's profits are going to skyrocket when you have to procure the sheer amount of hard drive space and editing bays for this project...

[Sea Skimmer]

Not neccessarily. A small production run of these limited-use warships will probably inflate unit costs. DD21 was cancelled in part because it was too limited in use (it's combat systems were FUBAR, but that's another issue entirely). If you really wanted to, you could attempt to refit the Spruances with a lightweight 8" gun.

Shells are cheaper than cruise missiles or even low-cost land-attack missiles like Harpoon II or SLAM-ER, but also have their limitation.

Not a good option. The space that would have held the Mk.71 was taken up completely when they where refitted with a VLS system. Tear that out and your left with a gun, Sea Sparrow and RAM on a manpower intensive hull. Not worthwhile.

Counting on heavy usage of SLAM-ER is also a poor idea. To guide it a surface ship needs to use a SATCOM channel, and where desperately short of those. While a few hundred billion dollars will take care of existing and expected shortages, with the current military, a greatly expended service would have even higher demand, likely orders of magnitude with the arrival of so many new UAV's.

[HemlockGrey]

Can I come down off this cross now? The guy next to me has started to attract flies. I promise I won't embezzle again!

[LT.Hit-Man]

Eh whatever as long as no one gives me any grief I don't give a shit who rules the US.

[Sea Skimmer]

Wait, they're actually calling it the KC-767?

It was offically approved in September 2002

If you really want to be screwy, we could go back to the old numbering system, applied retroactively. If we really wanted to be cruel, we could use the old Navy system, or even split it again

Of course, this would mean the F/A-18 series would have a dozen different names depending on the manufacturing plant and what version it was and when it was built...

I'm not that insane, though in real life there was a strong argument and support for renumbering the F/A-18E/F the F-24A/B.

[Sea Skimmer]

Eh whatever as long as no one gives me any grief I don't give a shit who rules the US.

With its new leadership you should, because you'll soon be part of it, or a giant crater depending on peoples mood

[Beowulf]

I'm not that insane, though in real life there was a strong argument and support for renumbering the F/A-18E/F the F-24A/B.

Considering the amount of changes between the Hornet and the Super Hornet, they probably should have. I believe that the only reason why they didn't was to keep Congress from saying that it was an entirely new fighter, and should be axed...

[LT.Hit-Man]

Eh whatever as long as no one gives me any grief I don't give a shit who rules the US.

With its new leadership you should, because you'll soon be part of it, or a giant crater depending on peoples mood

That would be a sad error in judgement on there part.

[Sea Skimmer]

That would be a sad error in judgement on there part.

Why, because the CDF might manage to find ammo to fight for more then 24 hours or because you think a single mere Sith Lord can defeat the nation, which holds the key to the canon and official powers of the force?

[phongn]

I'm not that insane, though in real life there was a strong argument and support for renumbering the F/A-18E/F the F-24A/B.

Considering the amount of changes between the Hornet and the Super Hornet, they probably should have. I believe that the only reason why they didn't was to keep Congress from saying that it was an entirely new fighter, and should be axed...

Shades of the B-29D/B-50.

[phongn]

Not neccessarily. A small production run of these limited-use warships will probably inflate unit costs. DD21 was cancelled in part because it was too limited in use (it's combat systems were FUBAR, but that's another issue entirely). If you really wanted to, you could attempt to refit the Spruances with a lightweight 8" gun.

Shells are cheaper than cruise missiles or even low-cost land-attack missiles like Harpoon II or SLAM-ER, but also have their limitation.

Not a good option. The space that would have held the Mk.71 was taken up completely when they where refitted with a VLS system. Tear that out and your left with a gun, Sea Sparrow and RAM on a manpower intensive hull. Not worthwhile.

Counting on heavy usage of SLAM-ER is also a poor idea. To guide it a surface ship needs to use a SATCOM channel, and where desperately short of those. While a few hundred billion dollars will take care of existing and expected shortages, with the current military, a greatly expended service would have even higher demand, likely orders of magnitude with the arrival of so many new UAV's.

I wasn't trying to imply heavy usage of SLAM-ER, though it'd be nice if we hat that many satellite channels.

Could you replace the rear 5" with the 8" since there isn't room in front?

[LT.Hit-Man]

That would be a sad error in judgement on there part.

Why, because the CDF might manage to find ammo to fight for more then 24 hours or because you think a single mere Sith Lord can defeat the nation, which holds the key to the canon and official powers of the force?

None of the above, I can more then deal with anything that may anony me, but if I was offered a job I might take depending on what was offered to me.