Too fat for McDonalds?
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400lbs? Jesus Christ can he even perform the task efficiently?
I think we all should be judge by our physical characteristics to a certain degree, we need able people to perform the jobs they are hired for.
Also I agree, we need to get back to the days when people were responsible for their own actions. This system of "it's someone else's fault" is poisoning our country.
I think we all should be judge by our physical characteristics to a certain degree, we need able people to perform the jobs they are hired for.
Also I agree, we need to get back to the days when people were responsible for their own actions. This system of "it's someone else's fault" is poisoning our country.
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He in all likelyhood dosen't have any real facts, but McDonalds is a massive corporation , and I'll bet he's counting on an out of court settlement. In reality a massivly overweight person WILL NOT be hired for fast food/returaunt jobs, I know , I worked for Pizza Hut for three years and someone in that kind of physical shape would be a laibility for the entire resturant. If you can't move, and I mean MOVE YOUR ASS, for 8+ hours everything goes straight to hell in a hand basket. Some corpluent hatfucker who get out of breath getting out of his car is going to make a lousy cook or server. Itsjust a fact of that particular business.Darth Wong wrote:That's the other problem; precisely how does he know they didn't hire him because of his size? I seriously doubt the hiring guy said "we can't hire you because you're a fat-ass", so what's his evidence?
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Agreed. If he wants the job (and I don't really see why anyone would want to work there) then he should get some help and drop the weight. It's not Micky D's fault, it is his own fat fault.
Perhaps the manager is concerned that he will eat all of the food and that they will lose money? I can imagine a customer opening their Big Mac only to discover a big bite out of it...
Perhaps the manager is concerned that he will eat all of the food and that they will lose money? I can imagine a customer opening their Big Mac only to discover a big bite out of it...
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Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
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So, because he is a competent worker at his other jobs, means that the only other possible conclusion is because he is over weight? Durran, I expect much more from you then this. Seriously, was he the only fucker applying for the job? It would have to be one back water fucking town for that. Shit, let's flash some examples around real quick, then come back to the main topic.Durran Korr wrote:Well, if he can produce evidence that he was a competent worker at his other jobs, and that discrimination against the obese is a regular practice at that McDonalds, then he has a case.Darth Wong wrote:That's the other problem; precisely how does he know they didn't hire him because of his size? I seriously doubt the hiring guy said "we can't hire you because you're a fat-ass", so what's his evidence?
I personally think he would cost the place a bit too much productivity (a 400 pound glob of flesh is not going to make moving around a fairly small kitchen easier), but the courts wouldn't buy that defense.
First, we'll relate with my workplace. Because it's a non food retail, which many people should be able to relate to. Let's start with application. I rarely run into someone who actually knows thier shit about motorcycles. Yet, everytime we put an ad in the paper, (now in my department, selling parts, it's not a major issue, however...) hordes (like right now) of people come in to apply. Even for service. Yet they have NEVER ridden a motorcycle in thier life. They might not even be a shady tree mechanic. Still they come. Now, once you get past the druggies, flunkies and drop outs you move on to the rest of the field. There you have your mediocres, might work out, and qualified. Do you know how hard it is to have to train someone? It's not rocket science, but still. Then, the time, (that usually I) has to be taken to correc their mistakes, or help them out on trouble spots. Now, your working. Let's get out there and get to buisness. Okay, it's getting busy, shit load of customers crying for thier god damned spark plugs (over priced if they act like thier broke, yet pull in 7 figures for thier fucking engineering degrees). Come on man, step it up. Taking too much time. That's right, I need that spark plug pronto. Not only that, what if I'm called to a problem, and I have to thread through a group of people, while dodging boxes and supplies?
Let's apply that to McDonalds. (I can't believe I'm sticking up for these assholes.). First off, who is the most qualified? Fat Bastard, or the Flash. One is obese, is slower than most applicants, especially the Flash, and has trouble comprehending 'Super Size' on the register. (They sure as hell know it means more food). Flash on the other hand, can bounce, run, and jump over the competition, can type faster than any man alive, and has Jedi Precognition, or Spider Sense. Take your pick. Who do we hire? Fat Bastard. Why? Because we don't want to get sued, because someone is FAT. It's not like I have a problem with fat people, the majority of my family is over weight, and my dad is grossly obese. However, going with what little we know about the story, I'm really going to have to assume it was NOT because of his weight. More like the competition he was up against. Shit, they could have hired a Pamela Anderson look alike, because of her looks. Is she sueing anyone? Hell no. Enough of the rant. I would almost be certain, with not knowing the entire story, that it was not SOLEY on account of his size. More like the other applicants available.
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Water retention?Darth Wong wrote:Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
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Lack of exercise probably.Montcalm wrote:Some fat people said they do not eat that much,so i`m wondering how the hell did they get that fatDarth Wong wrote:Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
Oh, and about the guy who did not get hired because he was fat, I happen to agree. I'm sorry, but a 400 pound guy has no business working in a restraunt, It is just too physically demanding.
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Read what I wrote. If he can produce proof that he was a competent worker at his other jobs (a fully-qualified applicant, in other words), and that this McDonalds has a record of discrimination against the obese, than he has a case.Durran Korr wrote: and that discrimination against the obese is a regular practice at that McDonalds
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Assuming he can also perform the job at McDonalds. I seriously doubt a guy that fat could keep walking and standing for an eight hour shift.Durran Korr wrote:Read what I wrote. If he can produce proof that he was a competent worker at his other jobs (a fully-qualified applicant, in other words), and that this McDonalds has a record of discrimination against the obese, than he has a case.Durran Korr wrote: and that discrimination against the obese is a regular practice at that McDonalds
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Perhaps, but the law places the burden of proof on McDonald's to show that obesity in fact disqualifies applicants from being able to work. I'm talking about the law as it is, not how I want it to be.Sea Skimmer wrote:Assuming he can also perform the job at McDonalds. I seriously doubt a guy that fat could keep walking and standing for an eight hour shift.Durran Korr wrote:Read what I wrote. If he can produce proof that he was a competent worker at his other jobs (a fully-qualified applicant, in other words), and that this McDonalds has a record of discrimination against the obese, than he has a case.Durran Korr wrote: and that discrimination against the obese is a regular practice at that McDonalds
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I'm talking about if McDonalds in fact wants to argue that it is justified in refraining from hiring the morbidly obese. But I didn't make that very clear.Durandal wrote:No, it places the burden of proof on the fat guy to show that he was denied employment strictly because of his weight.
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Actually, some people suffer from having unusually slow/fast metabolisms. People with slow metabolism are often overweight. (Or so I've heard)Montcalm wrote:Some fat people said they do not eat that much,so i`m wondering how the hell did they get that fatDarth Wong wrote:Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
"Hi there, would you like to have a cookie?"
"No, actually I would HATE to have a cookie, you vapid waste of inedible flesh!"
"No, actually I would HATE to have a cookie, you vapid waste of inedible flesh!"
Darth Wong wrote:Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
There's a man in my hometown.
He's a husband and father of two.
Weighed about 150 pounds.
Went in for bloodwork.
It was determined that he needed some steroids because of a chemical imbalance (or something to that effect, I don't know the guy and just read about this in the paper).
He took the steroids.
They reacted somehow with his body chemisty and he shot up to over 400 pounds.
He had to go in for liposuction because he was so heavy, yet it wasn't his fault at all.
Now, for someone I actually do know...
There's a girl in my hometown.
I went to HS with her.
We were in the same martial arts class.
She's stronger and faster than me, and her endurance is better as well.
She runs a mile or so every day.
She doesn't eat any more than I do.
Yet, if you looked at her, you'd probably classify her as 'heavy.'
Why? She really does have a slow metabolism.
Now, I'm not making the argument that no one is responsible for their own weight, that's ridiculous. However, there ARE people out there who get trashed for being fat when it really isn't their fault at all.
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Re: Too fat for McDonalds?
Yes and it was a damn good film.Zaia wrote:Durandal wrote:Then their reluctance to hire a man who would incure extremely high medical costs is understandable.phongn wrote:They probably would, since IIRC they do have a medical plan.
Bullshit, that's discrimination. Have you seen the movie "Philadelphia?"
On the other hand people tend to link their thoughts...I mean a food served by a "mountain-size-fat-ball" will force people to think"I'll be like him if I eat here...". Sounds stupid but it's true.
I'm don't care about that but you'll be surprised how many people do...
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Not to sound dumb, but does slow metabolism cause any digestive problems??IG-88E wrote: Why? She really does have a slow metabolism.
If so, it might cause some people with slow metabolism to eat rarely.
"Hi there, would you like to have a cookie?"
"No, actually I would HATE to have a cookie, you vapid waste of inedible flesh!"
"No, actually I would HATE to have a cookie, you vapid waste of inedible flesh!"
Actually, every application I've ever filled out has a section that asks you:Darth Wong wrote:Allow him to re-apply with the job, and add a physical fitness test to the job requirements. When he fails, explain that it was because of the fitness test, not his obesity.
"Are you able to perform the essential functions of the position you are applying for?"
Hit the nail on the head. When you're that fat, it it a personal responsibility to make sure you don't fucking offend. There's no goddamed excuse for smelling like an armpit. Word of advice to fellow fatties: Daily showers, or showers especially after a physical demanding activity, AND gel deodorant are your FRIENDS!Tsyroc wrote:I'd also be interested in knowing how he presented himself when he applied for the job. I've been around a few really large people that had some really bad problems with b.o. that did have some corellation with their size. It wasn't something that couldn't be fixed but a lot of the time these people weren't aware of the problem or how it affected the people around them.
Hope this doesn't spiral the topic off to a tangent, but I can't see why we don't apply the above to these asshole smokers who are now crying through their blowhole in their neck that's its someone else's fault they have throat cancer.Kamakazie Sith wrote:Also I agree, we need to get back to the days when people were responsible for their own actions. This system of "it's someone else's fault" is poisoning our country.
No really, fat people DO eat a lot. What I don't understand are these "National Enquirer" stories with people who claim they got fat by having 4 loaves of bread, 6 pounds of bacon, and 4 dozen eggs every day for breakfast.Montcalm wrote:Some fat people said they do not eat that much,so i`m wondering how the hell did they get that fatDarth Wong wrote:Aw come on, his joke comment wasn't that offensive. Fat people eat a lot. This is not prejudice; it is fucking scientifically justifiable FACT. How the fuck do you think they got fat?
BULL-SHIT! First of all, how can anyone AFFORD to eat that much every day? Secondly, there's no way any one person can eat that much in one sitting. No way. I know I didn't get to 400+ by doing that!