An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age (bit pic-heavy)

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-04-18 04:54pm

Claymores are the ultimate swords. The only problem is you need to be a big bastard in the 1st place to weild one effectively. Claymores are what enabled some barely clothes unarmoured scots men to hand the english their asses on several occassions. Personaly i prefer my Katana however, isn't Ebay great.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-18 05:00pm

Darth Pounder wrote:Claymores are the ultimate swords. The only problem is you need to be a big bastard in the 1st place to weild one effectively. Claymores are what enabled some barely clothes unarmoured scots men to hand the english their asses on several occassions. Personaly i prefer my Katana however, isn't Ebay great.

Lets see how well you can use that sword when you have a couple arrows in you...

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » 2003-04-18 06:30pm

Claymores are the ultimate swords. The only problem is you need to be a big bastard in the 1st place to weild one effectively. Claymores are what enabled some barely clothes unarmoured scots men to hand the english their asses on several occassions.

Actually, you didn't have to be all that big... I've seen one used quite effectively by a 5'2" girl.

Contrary to popular belief, they don't weigh all that much... three-four pounds tops for a functional one. It's a longsword/greatsword with an exceptionally long handle.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-18 08:12pm

Darth Pounder wrote:Claymores are the ultimate swords. The only problem is you need to be a big bastard in the 1st place to weild one effectively. Claymores are what enabled some barely clothes unarmoured scots men to hand the english their asses on several occassions. Personaly i prefer my Katana however, isn't Ebay great.

As a big bastard, I can understand and appreciate this sentiment. Far too often have I had little guys come up to me and say things like, "Hey, let's swap-and-go," and they get their asses handed to them because they can't move my Claymore imitation.

Wish I had a real one, though...

Anyone got one I can buy?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-04-19 12:02pm

Try Ebay, thats where i got most of my weaponary. Also many of the guys selling weapons on Ebay have their own sites which you cna link to.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-19 06:55pm

Yeah, a lot of people seem to think that European weapons are heavy, bulky and completely ungainly. Your average longsword only weighs around 3 pounds.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-20 03:42am

aerius wrote:They're nice for the $400 that they cost, but they're not nearly as good as the custom made Wally Hayes ones. I've read that the PPK steel is softer and not as durable, and it's not a full tang handle so it could eventually come apart under hard impacts.

Well... obviously they're not as good as custom made. They are apparently rather good for the price point. I've seen a pic of one disassembled, and it apparently does have a full length tang.

Link to pics: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread ... adid=18446

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2003-04-22 01:02am

What are the reasons for having such weapons? That is, I can certainly understand keeping them akin to a museum piece but can you really use them? Queen Salaron, you alluded to this in your post. Do people join clubs and use them on eachother? I can't really see full contact with razor sharp blades though. Are wooden swords used?

XPViking

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-04-22 08:55am

XPViking wrote:What are the reasons for having such weapons? That is, I can certainly understand keeping them akin to a museum piece but can you really use them? Queen Salaron, you alluded to this in your post. Do people join clubs and use them on eachother? I can't really see full contact with razor sharp blades though. Are wooden swords used?

XPViking

There are several types of "clubs" that teach how to use swords. Most are used for historical reinactments or at Faires and such. You train using wooden practice swords (or bamboo for some oriental swords). The "full contact" is not with sharpened blades. In fact, most states do not allow you to transport sharpened blades. That's why when you buy them, they are dulled.

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2003-04-22 10:20am

Okay. Thank you Kelly.

XPViking

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-24 12:52pm

XPViking wrote:What are the reasons for having such weapons? That is, I can certainly understand keeping them akin to a museum piece but can you really use them? Queen Salaron, you alluded to this in your post. Do people join clubs and use them on eachother? I can't really see full contact with razor sharp blades though. Are wooden swords used?

A) Call me "Queen" again, and I'll show you just how razor sharp those blades are.

B) They're called LARP (Live Action Role-Play) groups. You assume a character and walk around renaissance fairs like you own the place. A guy I know took it a step further, and combined sword-collectors with LARPers, and made a medieval fightclub. There are really only 5 of us.

The reason he started it was because he was sick of using the crappy-ass wooden swords at ren fairs. We got a permit from the city to use the swords (we're licensed, too), so long as we use some sort of protection. Local metalworkers guildsman got wind of us, and donated his services in armor-making. Nothing huge, just some plate-mail, gauntlets and helms (Which have been personalized with spraypaint). We stop ourselves at disarming, cutting out all the fun of maiming blows.

The Super-ego is no fun. I'd much rather listen to my Id all the time.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-04-24 01:14pm

Careful using the acronym LARP, Queeb. That usually means a Vamp group of pseudo-goths and pagans who are nothing but fakers.

Oh, and lay off XP. the B happens to be right beside the N.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-04-24 01:21pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:Careful using the acronym LARP, Queeb. That usually means a Vamp group of pseudo-goths and pagans who are nothing but fakers.

Oh, and lay off XP. the B happens to be right beside the N.

LARP? ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!!!

Where's that "Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt" Thread!? That was funny!!!

XP? As in XtraPain? Get Win2K instead (yeah if you can FIND a disk...)

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-04-24 01:24pm

*Full Mod Mode*

*Stands with hands on hips* Ein? Lay off the spam or I'm going to start deleting posts.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-04-24 01:35pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:*Full Mod Mode*

*Stands with hands on hips* Ein? Lay off the spam or I'm going to start deleting posts.

Okay, I'll quit.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-04-24 03:36pm

The Dungeons and Dragons Club in Queens University Belfast take part in live action Role Plays. A guy i know from work is a member. The only problem is full armor and only rubber and plastic swords mean all the fun of actually hurting the geek you really dislake is prevented. The guy i know has a full scale replica of Frostmourne from Warcraft 3 as his weapon of choice. I might join, but i'll kick ass. I'm very good with a sword.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-24 03:58pm

Eleas, don't you LARP occasionally?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-25 06:11pm

Beowulf wrote:Lets see how well you can use that sword when you have a couple arrows in you...

Let's see how well you can use that bow when you've been cleaved in two

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-04-25 10:03pm

Bah, LARP....

I've spent years learning how to use such weapons properly....

Its entirely possible to fight with a pair of claymores at once....it takes a lot of co-ordination and skill, but it can be done....

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-04-25 10:06pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:Bah, LARP....

I've spent years learning how to use such weapons properly....

Its entirely possible to fight with a pair of claymores at once....it takes a lot of co-ordination and skill, but it can be done....

It also takes a buttload of strength. Claymores are long and cumbersome.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-04-25 10:25pm

Kelly Antilles wrote: It also takes a buttload of strength. Claymores are long and cumbersome.

I've done it myself, and to be honest I'm not the strongest person about....take into account the balance and momentum of the blade are part of the skill really.....

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-04-25 10:36pm

Point, and with the necessary skill, it isn't hard to weild two of any weapon.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-25 10:39pm

My great-grandfather left me a WWI sword that doubled as a bayonet. Nice grip, fairly light. I'll take a picture and post it here tomorrow.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-04-26 10:37am

Darth Utsanomiko wrote:I prefer Bastard Swords.

I like a good staff myself.

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2003-04-27 08:17pm

Queeb: just an honest mistake

Einhander Sn0m4n: I can't understand your gibberish at all, but if you're really interesting in the story behind my handle then do a search. But that wouldn't stop you from shooting your mouth off now would it?

XPViking