If Marina ruled the US

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 01:33am

Ah, screw asking. I'm taking over BuShips. Anybody who disagrees can take it up with my Papal Ninjas.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-19 01:41am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
phongn wrote:
Yes, indeed. What do you want on your CGSN anyways?
Not sure, but hell its been said that the Kirov's grew out of a 1500 ton frigate project, 256-384 VLS cells and three eight inch mounts hangs in my mind.

...

I know the Spruances grew out of a mini-Knox type design, but a fricking Kirov from a frigate?

More fuel, space for a towed array again and perhapes an extra 32-64 VLS cell amidship. A flight III design does exist but got rejected on cost grounds.

Ahh, more or less a modern Ticonderoga, minus the flag capabilities and two fewer directors?

That won't be a huge issue military pay will be going up and the US will be spawning hundred of new civilian nuclear power stations. Planes and there pilots take alot of time, and by then naval fire support can be met with new gun and missile systems. That makes the Iowas just a couple big hulls that need massive amounts of work to be of use.

True true. We could turn them into AOEs or something just to piss off the Cult of Manji.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-19 01:42am

Iceberg wrote:Ah, screw asking. I'm taking over BuShips. Anybody who disagrees can take it up with my Papal Ninjas.

Presumably you're going to root out the corrupting influence of the Cult of Manji?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 01:52am

Yes. All persons in the Department of the Navy known to be polluted with the taint of the Cult of Manji will be found face-down in the Potomac at random intervals.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-19 01:52am

phongn wrote:Presumably you're going to root out the corrupting influence of the Cult of Manji?

As a former Executive of Manjiworks International, I cannot allow you to do that Phongn. The Zepplins with the 8 inch guns bolted to the bottom must fly.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-19 01:56am

phongn wrote:
I know the Spruances grew out of a mini-Knox type design, but a fricking Kirov from a frigate?

That's what I've heard, though it may just be a myth. It would explain all the ASW weaponry through.

Ahh, more or less a modern Ticonderoga, minus the flag capabilities and two fewer directors?

Somthing like that, but a Burke has three directors and a Tico four IIRC.

True true. We could turn them into AOEs or something just to piss off the Cult of Manji.

How about mobile breakwaters?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-04-19 02:03am

Iceberg wrote:Yes. All persons in the Department of the Navy known to be polluted with the taint of the Cult of Manji will be found face-down in the Potomac at random intervals.

Ahem, I think this salad garnished by my good friend, um, Benjamin may change your mind.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-04-19 02:18am

[Department of Commerce Bureaus]

Bureau of Industry and Security: The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) is at the cutting edge of many challenging and important issues involving national security and high technology. A principal challenge for the bureau is helping stop proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, while furthering the growth of U.S. exports.

Economics and Statistics Administration: The Economics and Statistics Administration (ESA) produces, analyzes and disseminates some of the nation's most important economic and demographic data.

Bureau of Economic Analysis" The Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) provides the most comprehensive statistical picture available of the U.S. economy.

Bureau of the Census: The Bureau of the Census - known as "the nation's fact finder" - conducts the decennial census of population and housing, demographic and economic censuses, and more than 200 annual surveys, many of them for other government agencies.

Economic Development Administration: The Economic Development Administration (EDA) provides grants to economically-distressed communities to generate new employment, help retain existing jobs and stimulate industrial and commercial growth.

International Trade Administration: The International Trade Administration (ITA) is the lead unit for trade in the Department of Commerce. It promotes U.S. exports of manufactured goods, nonagricultural commodities and services.

Minority Business Development Agency: The Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA) promotes growth and competitiveness of the nation's minority-owned businesses.

National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is dedicated to predicting and protecting the environment. NOAA's overall mission is two-fold: (1) environmental assessment and prediction--to observe and assess the state of our environment, while protecting public safety and the Nation's economic and environmental security through accurate forecasting; and (2) environmental stewardship--protect ocean, coastal and living marine resources while assisting their economic development.

National Telecommunications & Information Administration: The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) of the Department of Commerce serves as the President's principal adviser on telecommunications policies pertaining to the nation's economic and technological advancement and to regulation of the telecommunications industry. NTIA plays a key role in attaining the goal of an "information superhighway."

Patent and Trademark Office: PTO provides patent and trademark protection to inventors and businesses for their inventions and corporate and product identification. Through preservation, classification and dissemination of patent information, PTO encourages innovation and the scientific and technical advancement of American industry.

Technology Administration: The Technology Administration (TA) leads civilian technology for Commerce and works with U.S. industries to promote economic competitiveness.

National Institute of Standards & Technology: The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), part of the Technology Administration, promotes U.S. economic growth by working with industry to develop and apply technology, measurements and standards.

National Technical Information Service: For 50 years, the National Technical Information Service (NTIS), has served as the U.S. government repository for research and development results and for other information produced by and for the government as well as a variety of public and private sources worldwide.

Interesting... I shall see to it that the resources of the above shall provide whatever assistance that is can to Madam President's administration.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-19 04:56am

Now I'm all taken up with ways to twist the religious significance of Saudi Arabia to our own purposes.

I see... a flyer... of a grinning American GI standing in front of a blasted mosque. The caption underneath reads... "When you bow to Mecca, you bow to ME!"

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-19 05:55am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote: I see... a flyer... of a grinning American GI standing in front of a blasted mosque. The caption underneath reads... "When you bow to Mecca, you bow to ME!"

*dozens of US Army Special Forces troops smash into Prawn's office
and gun him down, with RAH-66 Comanches providing mobile fire support,
killing any manji-clones who try to intervene to save Manji II, aka Prawn*

"Fucking hell, how many clones does this fucknut have?"

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-19 06:00am

Iceberg wrote:Ah, screw asking. I'm taking over BuShips. Anybody who disagrees can take it up with my Papal Ninjas.

Will you support my RO-RO building programme? If not, say hello to a
laser guided hellfire through your office window from my crack Comanche
black helicopter squadron.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 09:15am

MKSheppard wrote:
Iceberg wrote:Ah, screw asking. I'm taking over BuShips. Anybody who disagrees can take it up with my Papal Ninjas.
Will you support my RO-RO building programme? If not, say hello to a
laser guided hellfire through your office window from my crack Comanche
black helicopter squadron.

Sorry, I had a Super-Rapid mounted above my office for precisely this reason. I'll study your RO-RO program but I can't make any promises until I've balanced it against the needs of the Fleet.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 09:18am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Iceberg wrote:Yes. All persons in the Department of the Navy known to be polluted with the taint of the Cult of Manji will be found face-down in the Potomac at random intervals.
Ahem, I think this salad garnished by my good friend, um, Benjamin may change your mind.

I don't eat salad, but maybe I can offer you this lovely sandwich.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-19 09:24am

"Fucking hell, how many clones does this fucknut have?"

I have more doubles than Saddam and more clones than Palpatine. For all you know, I'm issuing commands from a sub at the bottom of the sea. Muahahaha.

Now Sheppy, what sort of ships did you want again? If you ask nicely you might actually get something. After all, you being able to ship your own silly ass across the ocean will save me the trouble.

And what's this Manji shit? The Imperial Sea Destroyer died the moment I was appointed.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-19 09:24am

Iceberg wrote:Yes. All persons in the Department of the Navy known to be polluted with the taint of the Cult of Manji will be found face-down in the Potomac at random intervals.

Good, take care Gil Hamiltion first. And reveiw anyone the late Ex-Secretary Pawn appointed.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-19 09:26am

MKSheppard wrote:
Iceberg wrote:Ah, screw asking. I'm taking over BuShips. Anybody who disagrees can take it up with my Papal Ninjas.
Will you support my RO-RO building programme? If not, say hello to a
laser guided hellfire through your office window from my crack Comanche
black helicopter squadron.

There's no need for that Shep. You've got your RO-ROs and anything else you need. No need to gun down my assistants.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-19 09:27am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:And what's this Manji shit? The Imperial Sea Destroyer died the moment I was appointed.

Fortunately for everyone it took you with it.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 10:29am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
phongn wrote:Presumably you're going to root out the corrupting influence of the Cult of Manji?
As a former Executive of Manjiworks International, I cannot allow you to do that Phongn. The Zepplins with the 8 inch guns bolted to the bottom must fly.

They'll fly straight into the bottom of my circular file. Can I interest you in a mint before you leave my office?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-19 10:34am

Iceberg wrote: They'll fly straight into the bottom of my circular file. Can I interest you in a mint before you leave my office?

*Prawn takes the mint, and sucks on it and dies immediately from the cyanide-laced sweet*

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 11:19am

Of course, I'm still deciding whether "sending Comanche attack helos to attack my office" qualifies as an assassination attempt blatant enough to require a retaliatory assassination...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-04-19 11:35am

Stop the assasination attempts, guys, or I'll just appeal to the State Governors to arrest you all and restore order. We're supposed to be running a nation here, not imitating the collapse of the Roman Republic in real-time. I want final drafts of your requests on my desk by tonight for the military budget, along with drafts of budget proposals by the other departments. The first are for actual approval - The second are for discussion on government proposals.

*grins* Just remember - Nobody complains about torturing cabinet-level ministers, just citizens. I do.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-04-19 11:41am

Has anyone applied for Ayatollah of Rockinrolla yet?

I don't know what the job would entail but I always got a kick out of the title. Maybe I could be responsible for the ellimination of Boy Bands and other lame ass Pop stuff. Everything will be handled with extreme prejudices of course.

Someone else is welcome to the "Warrior of the Wasteland" gig.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-19 12:03pm

The Duchess has spoken! Now quit killing my doubles, you retards. Finding men handsome enough to pose as me is no small task.

Being the ACTUAL APPOINTED Chief of the Navy, and not some random dolt off the street making suggestions, here is my proposal:

Three (3) additional Evolved Nimitz carriers, in addition to the one planned, to be completed ASAP.

Three (3) additional CVNX carriers, in addition to those planned, to be completed in the long-term.

Fifty (50) DDX destroyers

Two (2) recomissioned and updated Iowa battleships

Twenty-five (25) of the gun-cruisers discussed earlier

Fifty percent increase in overall Marine Corps strength

Pay raises for naval and marine personnel, large increase in benefits paid to families of the deceased

Increase in sealift and shipping capacity in proportion to Marine Corps increases, and the amount of Field Marshal Assrape's junk I'll be expected to cart around.

Development of a top-notch naval air-superiority fighter, to be designated the F-25. (Let's redesignate the F-35 to the F-24, it's a reasonable idea.)

Carrier air wings filled out entirely with F-24's and 25's as soon as possible, with the latest F-14's and 18's in the meantime.

Ten-year refit cycle

Massive increase in funding for new ship construction. I want everything done as soon as is reasonably possible. It's not like it won't be put to good use.

Increase in funding of laser research, if this falls under my authority

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-04-19 12:09pm

BuShips is going to have to recommend against recomming the Iowas. The money to update their electronics to meet the standards of the rest of the fleet would be better spent developing a new 8" armed gun cruiser for the bombardment role, and 8" guns are far better than 16" for the purposes of shore support, especially if armed with an ERPGM.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-04-19 12:20pm

You have exactly as much authority over the recomissioning of ships as the President gives you, namely none thus far. Goddamn uppity civvies.