circumcision

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-19 02:04am

good thing/bad thing?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-19 02:11am

Oh God, not again...

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-19 02:12am

did I miss this one?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-19 02:13am

I'm sure this has been addressed elsewhere, but to recap: pediatricians have backpedalled on the usefulness of circumcision, and it is now widely agreed that the practice is for religious purposes rather than medical purposes. The argument that they should cut off the foreskin so you don't have to clean it is simply absurd; surgical mutilation is no substitute for soap and water.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-04-19 02:16am

I really don't see the point, other than some painful religous custom.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-19 02:22am

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... rcumcision

this talks about it I expect. will have to read.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-19 02:22am

I see it as a cosmetic alteration. And I personally dislike the "one-eyed garter snake" look. I don't mind that I'm circumcised.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-04-19 02:25am

There may not be a need to do it, but there certainly isn't anything wrong with penises that are circumsized.

The argument that they should cut off the foreskin so you don't have to clean it is simply absurd; surgical mutilation is no substitute for soap and water.

Maybe its just me, but I think "mutilation" is a bit harsh since there is no physical harm or imparement done, and I find it silly that people could be so insecure about themselves as to feel "mutilated" by not having a little bit of skin covering their dick head when its not hard.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-19 02:25am

Icehawk wrote:Maybe its just me, but I think "mutilation" is a bit harsh since there is no physical harm or imparement done, and I find it silly that people could be so insecure about themselves as to feel "mutilated" by not having a little bit of skin covering there dick head when its not hard.

A piece of one's body is permanently removed. There is obvious physical harm done.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-19 02:28am

Darth Wong wrote:
Icehawk wrote:Maybe its just me, but I think "mutilation" is a bit harsh since there is no physical harm or imparement done, and I find it silly that people could be so insecure about themselves as to feel "mutilated" by not having a little bit of skin covering there dick head when its not hard.
A piece of one's body is permanently removed. There is obvious physical harm done.

Then why have I never had a problem with it?

Kuroneko · Post by **Kuroneko** » 2003-04-19 02:31am

Darth Wong wrote:A piece of one's body is permanently removed. There is obvious physical harm done.

A bit more needs to be said than that. Otherwise, removing the appendix or even clipping nails is physical harm.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-04-19 02:31am

A piece of one's body is permanently removed. There is obvious physical harm done.

Actually, there are apparently some things you can do to get it back, but they can be inconvienient and take time. Needless to say skin cells do replicate. Either way, I personally don't find it as something to get that worked up over as to actually call it "mutilation"

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-04-19 02:53am

Icehawk wrote:
A piece of one's body is permanently removed. There is obvious physical harm done.
Actually, there are apparently some things you can do to get it back, but they can be inconvienient and take time. Needless to say skin cells do replicate. Either way, I personally don't find it as something to get that worked up over as to actually call it "mutilation"

The term is completely, technically correct.

As for the magnitude of harm, it reduces sexual pleasure. Some may argue that this is not a serious harm, but frankly, that decision is not for anyone but the owner of that foreskin to make. Need I remind you that this procedure is done to unwilling infants?

To take the examples of nail-clipping and appendectomies, clipped nails regrow while foreskins don't, and appendixes are not removed pre-emptively; they are only removed if it is medically necessary. Circumcision is not medically necessary. When you cut something off and it is permanent/unnecessary, mutilation is hardly an excessive term.

Kuroneko · Post by **Kuroneko** » 2003-04-19 03:02am

A convincing argument, Mr. Wong.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-04-19 03:16am

Need I remind you that this procedure is done to unwilling infants?

I was one of those "unwilling infants" and quite frankly I really dont care, Why? because there is nothing wrong with my dick and I dont even remember it being done. (Being minutes/days old at the time tends to do that to people) Up untill I first saw an uncircumcized one in a change room as a kid, I just assumed it was natural to have one like mine.

To take the examples of nail-clipping and appendectomies, clipped nails regrow while foreskins don't, and appendixes are not removed pre-emptively; they are only removed if it is medically necessary. Circumcision is not medically necessary. When you cut something off and it is permanent/unnecessary, mutilation is hardly an excessive term.

Oh well, I dont consider it mutilation unless there are real consequences that actually effect me in a negative way. As it stands there arent any and my sexual pleasure level that I get from it is perfectly fine as is.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-04-19 04:25am

The thing that sucks is, I'll never know what I'm missing.
On a purely asthetic note, the clipped wienie is a more attractive organ, but that hardly compensates for the lost sensation.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-04-19 07:20am

(Holds armor plating in front of crotch) Stay away from my cock!!! I have a weeding stick!! Back, evil doctors!!!! Nobody brings in a sharp object near my foreskin and lives!!! Back, I tell you!!!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-04-19 08:13am

Darth Gojira wrote:(Holds armor plating in front of crotch) Stay away from my cock!!! I have a weeding stick!! Back, evil doctors!!!! Nobody brings in a sharp object near my foreskin and lives!!! Back, I tell you!!!

Seconded.

Unfortunately, I was born to a crack-smoking cunt with a penchant for sleeping with the entire male population of New Orleans.. It's amazing I wasn't a half-breed actually. So naturally the dick was snipped. Thank you anonymous doctor for barely taking anything off the top!

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-04-19 09:01am

Wong is, as always right, - it does decrease pleasure, and speaking as someone who likes a good cock every now and then, I like something to play with.

A good few of my 'tricks' inviolve the foreskin (don't ask me to go into details, because I won't)

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-19 09:49am

I will state, flatly and without further argument, you will get my foreskin when you pry the last of my weapons from my hands, when you either kill me or incapacitate me, and after I have killed at least three of your men. My cock is my personal property, and if you think you're cutting a bit off, I will seriously break your face.

That being said, the foreskin is a wonderful thing. I'm all but immune to blows to the crotch unless I'm horny, it's fun to play with when you're a kid, and apparantly is fun for my girlfriend to play with.

Furthermore, there can be great physical harm done. My primary example is a guy I knew who had it done later in life. He nearly bled to death after getting up to piss. And from him, I learned several facts: Your cock will be rock solid for about a week, even if the only stimulation is your silk boxers. You will likely fall over in pain if you wrap your hand around the shaft at this time. Then, after the week of uber-hardness, you will become less sensitive overall. And that will stay.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-04-19 10:46am

i like my other head and it's keeping it's parka.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-04-19 12:49pm

Guys, guys, guys. We're all looking at this from our point of view but what about the opinons of our partners? So in the interest of respecting those opinions I will ask the first question on the subject of circumcised vs. uncircumcised. Which one tastes better?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-04-19 12:51pm

Tsyroc wrote:Guys, guys, guys. We're all looking at this from our point of view but what about the opinons of our partners? So in the interest of respecting those opinions I will ask the first question on the subject of circumcised vs. uncircumcised. Which one tastes better?

Generally a circed dick tastes better, but if the uncirced guy has good hygiene, it won't bother me a bit!

BrYaN19kc · Post by **BrYaN19kc** » 2003-04-19 01:01pm

I'm just thankful that my dad was sensible in his idea of "natural is better"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-04-19 01:16pm

It's another stupid practice by humans to counter evolutionary traits. You may as well compare it to docking tales on Rottweilers, it serves no purpose and if it was useless then it would have been phased out in subsequent models of that organism through the millenia.

Everything on your body has a purpose and I'm glad I've not had that organ under the knife.