- French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
- French cosmetic products
- French aircraft
- French maid outfits
- Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
- Canadian natural gas (5.1 trillion cubic feet in 2001, 51% of which went to the USA)
- Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
- Mercedes-Benz, Porshe, and BMW automobiles (like French wine, an historical status symbol)
- German industrial equipment
- German beer
What would you boycott?
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What would you boycott?
What would you boycott, from the following list of products made by nations which opposed the war?
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Re: What would you boycott?
It would have to be French goods, seeing as how I still like Germany and Canada for the most part. Plus I get the tastiest Maple Syrup from the New hampshire and Vermont. If course Jim Beam makes a good syrup too.Darth Wong wrote:
- French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
- French cosmetic products
- French aircraft
- Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
French wine bah! If I really need wine I'll do one of two things. go to Napa Valley or get another girlfriend.
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With the exception of maple syrup, I don't usually consciously buy any of the products listed there, anyway, so I guess I couldn't really boycott anything there even if I wanted to. I don't know where you guys buy gasoline, but at the local Arco they don't tell me where the oil for that gasoline came from. It's an anonymous product, so I couldn't even boycott that if I wanted to.
I don't make any habits of buying French maid outfits or cosmetic products, and I certainly don't go around shopping for jet aircraft.
What's more to the point, I'm not sure that I would care enough about the political situation to actually go out of my way to avoid purchasing anything here. I wouldn't willingly pay a higher price for an inferior product, almost regardless of my feelings towards the country that produced it. I see that as being somewhat ridicullous and childish.
Frankly, the only thing I would even think of boycotting would be the wine, because:
1. It's a luxory item.
2. Despite what the fanatics say, I can't tell the difference between French and domestic wines, anyway, and so the utility of either kind is similar to me.
3. Domestic wines are less expensive, anyway (which is also probably the reason why I don't usually purchase French wine, and am therefore not really capable of boycotting it, anyway).
With the other items, I would be able to distinguish either a drop-off of quality or a potential drop-off in price, but with the wine it's win-win.
I don't make any habits of buying French maid outfits or cosmetic products, and I certainly don't go around shopping for jet aircraft.
What's more to the point, I'm not sure that I would care enough about the political situation to actually go out of my way to avoid purchasing anything here. I wouldn't willingly pay a higher price for an inferior product, almost regardless of my feelings towards the country that produced it. I see that as being somewhat ridicullous and childish.
Frankly, the only thing I would even think of boycotting would be the wine, because:
1. It's a luxory item.
2. Despite what the fanatics say, I can't tell the difference between French and domestic wines, anyway, and so the utility of either kind is similar to me.
3. Domestic wines are less expensive, anyway (which is also probably the reason why I don't usually purchase French wine, and am therefore not really capable of boycotting it, anyway).
With the other items, I would be able to distinguish either a drop-off of quality or a potential drop-off in price, but with the wine it's win-win.
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I'd boycott the first four, I see no point to the next three, most of Canada appears to have supported an invasion of Iraq. I also see no point to the last three, Germany gave the US all the direct support it would have gotten anyway, use of bases and German troops to guard them.
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I wouldn't boycott these, I'd set up a valve that I could turn to shut off the supply to the U.S.Darth Wong wrote:Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
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You don't see the point of dressing up a woman in a French maid outfit?Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I'd have to go with French maid outfits. I really don't see the point of kinky sex. And the rest have some importance, either as a multi-billion-dollar industry, status symbol, or convienence.
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We actually straddled the fence (we even had three ships in the gulf to support your fleet), but some politicians with big mouths and bad attitudes caused problems for us.Sea Skimmer wrote:I'd boycott the first four, I see no point to the next three, most of Canada appears to have supported an invasion of Iraq. I also see no point to the last three, Germany gave the US all the direct support it would have gotten anyway, use of bases and German troops to guard them.
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What ended up happening, with that? Did Canada eventually decide to support the war, denounce the war, or give no opinion? Not that it would change what I would boycott at all (boycott maple syrup?).Darth Wong wrote:We actually straddled the fence (we even had three ships in the gulf to support your fleet), but some politicians with big mouths and bad attitudes caused problems for us.Sea Skimmer wrote:I'd boycott the first four, I see no point to the next three, most of Canada appears to have supported an invasion of Iraq. I also see no point to the last three, Germany gave the US all the direct support it would have gotten anyway, use of bases and German troops to guard them.
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1. French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
I don't buy wine, so this would be easy.
2. French cosmetic products
Ditto
3. French aircraft
Ditto in spades. I can't afford a new car, much less an A340.
4. French maid outfits
It's against the law in 15 states and a dozen foreign countries for me to wear a french maid outfit.
5. Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
No practical way of doing so, and even if there was I wouldn't do it for the reason that Canada hasn't been the stumbling block internationally that France has been.
6. Canadian natural gas (5.1 trillion cubic feet in 2001, 51% of which went to the USA)
Same as the oil.
7. Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
Domestic for me and it has nothing to do with a boycott.
8. Mercedes-Benz, Porshe, and BMW automobiles (like French wine, an historical status symbol)
Wouldn't buy them even if I could afford them because I try to buy domestic when I can, but that has nothing to do with a boycott. I'd rather spend the money on a Corvette or a Cadillac Sixteen.
9. German industrial equipment.
If there's no US made equivalent? No problem buying it.
If there's a US equivalent? I prefer domestic.
10. German beer
Other than some microbrews there is no US equivalent, so no problem buying German beer.
Having said all of that, I think this 'French boycott' business is taking a distaste for France's foreign policy just a little too far.
But you determine how you spend your money, not I.
I don't buy wine, so this would be easy.
2. French cosmetic products
Ditto
3. French aircraft
Ditto in spades. I can't afford a new car, much less an A340.
4. French maid outfits
It's against the law in 15 states and a dozen foreign countries for me to wear a french maid outfit.
5. Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
No practical way of doing so, and even if there was I wouldn't do it for the reason that Canada hasn't been the stumbling block internationally that France has been.
6. Canadian natural gas (5.1 trillion cubic feet in 2001, 51% of which went to the USA)
Same as the oil.
7. Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
Domestic for me and it has nothing to do with a boycott.
8. Mercedes-Benz, Porshe, and BMW automobiles (like French wine, an historical status symbol)
Wouldn't buy them even if I could afford them because I try to buy domestic when I can, but that has nothing to do with a boycott. I'd rather spend the money on a Corvette or a Cadillac Sixteen.
9. German industrial equipment.
If there's no US made equivalent? No problem buying it.
If there's a US equivalent? I prefer domestic.
10. German beer
Other than some microbrews there is no US equivalent, so no problem buying German beer.
Having said all of that, I think this 'French boycott' business is taking a distaste for France's foreign policy just a little too far.
But you determine how you spend your money, not I.
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A middle-of-the-road approach. Jean Chretien released a public statement indicating that "we will not participate" in the war, but did not denounce it. Some low-level backbenchers made idiots of themselves by flapping their lips and saying some anti-American things.Master of Ossus wrote:What ended up happening, with that? Did Canada eventually decide to support the war, denounce the war, or give no opinion? Not that it would change what I would boycott at all (boycott maple syrup?).
A lot of people wondered why we could say we're not participating in the war if we have 3 ships in the Gulf supporting your fleet, so Chretien explained that those 3 ships would not turn over prisoners to the American fleet if they picked up any in their patrols, but they would instead keep the prisoners ourselves. Damned if I know what the hell kind of position that is ...
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And watch Alberta either sink into a depression or declare independence from Ottawa.I wouldn't boycott these, I'd set up a valve that I could turn to shut off the supply to the U.S.
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Darth Wong wrote: Chretien explained that those 3 ships would not turn over prisoners to the American fleet if they picked up any in their patrols, but they would instead keep the prisoners ourselves.
WTF is that? I'm not even sure how that tries to explain the question.
[sarcasm]That's it, I'm boycotting pancakes. [/sarcasm]
Just out of curiosity, why would Canada want Iraqi POW's?
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And that's about it. The rest I don't have an issue with, and they'd go apeshit if we boycotted #3Darth Wong wrote:What would you boycott, from the following list of products made by nations which opposed the war?
- French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
- French cosmetic products
- French aircraft
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3# is probably the most possibul, the US government could aid a catch onto any airline aid package, you must buy American for the next decade. Combine that with the A400M disaster and Airbus will be back to needing 5 billion a year in direct subsidies in months.phongn wrote: And that's about it. The rest I don't have an issue with, and they'd go apeshit if we boycotted #3
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If Cretin had an ounce of intelligence he should have fired those two bitches who insulted the Americans,but no he`s a grade A moron and bitch no2 said she was sorry for the comment,she thought the mike were off,but when they say things like that i think they really mean what they say.Darth Wong wrote:A middle-of-the-road approach. Jean Chretien released a public statement indicating that "we will not participate" in the war, but did not denounce it. Some low-level backbenchers made idiots of themselves by flapping their lips and saying some anti-American things.
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On French wine: the very best French wine is better than anything else in the world. The very best French wine also costs more per bottle than my car does per month. The mid-grade French wine isn't any better or worse than a good California. That being said, I wouldn't boycott French wine because it's against my principles to pass up a drink.
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It's not just for kinky sex. Its to make the household staff feel better aboutAsst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I'd have to go with French maid outfits. I really don't see the point of kinky sex. And the rest have some importance, either as a multi-billion-dollar industry, status symbol, or convienence.
themselves. Besides, if you're dressing your household staff in these outfits it is definately a status symbol.
How could you boycott something so useful?
I'd really only be moderately in favor of boycotting French wines and
cosmetics. The wines have the added benefit to being one of the things
about their culture they claim is so much better than anybody elses.
I wouldn't boycott any of the other suggested goods because I don't really
have a problem with other countries being against the war or against
participating in the war. I had a problem with how France was so
extremely active and snooty, not to mention hypocritical, in their efforts to
block the US war with Iraq.
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I'm not seeing why our supply of kinky French maid outfits must actually come from France.
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None. Why the hell should I get my feathers ruffled because a country opposed the war? Besides, I wouldn't buy most them anyway.What would you boycott, from the following list of products made by nations which opposed the war?
I've had some of the stuff they grow here in Michigan and I have no inclination top buy french wines for ten times the price.French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
I'd be buying cosmetics why?French cosmetic products
If I had the money I'd rather buy an a WW2 warbird, specifically a friend of the family's P-51 Mustang. Either that or his L-19 Albatross Jet Trainer.French aircraft
I'd prefer skin tight leather for her.French maid outfits
Oil's oil, gas's gas.Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
Canadian natural gas (5.1 trillion cubic feet in 2001, 51% of which went to the USA)
I prefer real Vermont Syrup.Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
Hummer. American and beside I can squish Porsches with it.Mercedes-Benz, Porshe, and BMW automobiles (like French wine, an historical status symbol)
Whatever works.German industrial equipment
Irish Beer!German beer
Re: What would you boycott?
1. Don't drink French wines anyways so it doesn't matter. The stuff from Ontario's just as good, and I can't afford nor do I want to drink the really nice expensive stuff, it ain't worth it.Darth Wong wrote:What would you boycott, from the following list of products made by nations which opposed the war?
- French wine (an historical favourite of rich snobby people who wish to prove that they're better than everyone else through the use of vacuous status symbols)
- French cosmetic products
- French aircraft
- French maid outfits
- Canadian oil (1.53 million barrels per day in 2001, 65% of which went to the USA)
- Canadian natural gas (5.1 trillion cubic feet in 2001, 51% of which went to the USA)
- Quebec maple syrup (Quebec makes most of the world's maple syrup)
- Mercedes-Benz, Porshe, and BMW automobiles (like French wine, an historical status symbol)
- German industrial equipment
- German beer
2. Don't use cosmetics
3. Haven't flown in an Airbus yet, doubt I ever will. I always end up in a Boeing for some reason.
4. Hmmm...if I boycotted them I'd have to delete some porn movies off my HD.
5 & 6. Can't do it anyways and even if I could I wouldn't care to.
7. I don't buy the Quebec stuff in the first place since I can get fresh maple syrup from a farm in Ontario that's not too far from where I live, cheaper too.
8. Other than the BMW M3 I don't really care for those cars. Give me Buick as a daily driver and a Camaro or Corvette for weekend fun.
9. Goddamn I hate the German industrial equipment I've had to work with so far. In my case it's Siemens automated SMT assembly equipment (Siemens HS-50 & F5 placement machines). It's a pain in the ass to learn, the software's retarded, buggy, & unstable (it runs on fuckin' windows), and it costs a fortune for questionable benifits.
10. I kinda like German beer and I'm going to keep drinking it until I find a cheaper local beer that tastes as good.
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