"Star Wars tech is completely fanboy and implausible.&q

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-04-20 04:55pm

... says a TrekBBS forumer who goes by the name Strider, as he explains how Trek ships would wipe the floor with anything that SW galaxy can offer. Many other great minded fellows nod their heads in agreenment, but he is not yet finished, proving how his mind is uncapable of consuming information. "I mean, that's the kind of crap that people make fun of about SF. That link [SD.net] talked all about how many jiggowatts of power a ImpStar II can throw out and how big the Death Star is."

Some quotes from their discussion:

"Personaly, I think an Oberth class ship would make short work of any SW vessel."

"What I'd want to see is the Scimitar vs. and Imperial Star Desroyer. My bet's on the Reman Warbird."

"Genesis Device 1, Death Star 0."

"I dont believe the SD's turbolasers could penetrate Fed shields."

"My conclusion is that the GC would win [ISD]."

"Sure a phaser "may" not be able to do anything to a SW Destroyer, but what about a tachyon burst? Or an inverse polarion field? What about a ressonance burst from the main deflector?" [Oh Gawd! These very same people also claim in this thread that Star Wars and Star Trek cannot be compared because the former is "based on science"...]

In this thread we have it all! Almost every fallacy concerning Trek vs Wars debating is mentioned, including classics like "Trek shields are impregnable against turbolasers", "Imperials cannot aim", "Hyperdrive is slower than warp", "Mike Wong is biased and therefore I will not accept his calcs!" and "Godlike beings would come to Feddies' rescue".

However, as Kinnison proves it here, not all Trekkies think alike.

Galaxy Class v . Imperial Star Destroyer at TrekBBS

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-04-20 05:00pm

*sigh* The board apparently messed the subject header... Any helpers?

Darth Phoenix · Post by **Darth Phoenix** » 2003-04-20 06:36pm

WTF??

I'm not a very good at debates but i feel very tempted to login and try to do something about it.

The problem with this is that Star Wars tech is completely fanboy and implausible.

And ST isn't

Fine I can play that way too: I invented a new ship called the Death Crusher Sun Snuffer. It is as big as Earth's solar system. It has the weapon's capability to destroy entire star systems in a single shot. It mounts fifty billion turbolasers and 3 million quantum torps. Once, the DCSS snuffed out an entire civilization accidently when one of its station keeping thrusters misfired! A massive computer bigger than the moon runs the damn thing, and 3 gigojillion people live inside.

I think that this is the kind of thing that a person will say when it has nothing to backup his claims.

See, that was so easy. I didn't even have to think about it. I just made up that crap as I went along. The Stars Wars tech is equally stupid. Galaxy wins simply because it's far more interesting, although I would prefer the Defiant!

More interesting!!!

The Tie Fighetrs. The hexagonal panels on either side of the cockpit are supposed to be solar panels.

Those are heat sinks if i'm not mistaken.

There is another fan fic on a battle between the ST and SW universes at www.ditl.org. I find that it is more neutral but still is a bit biased, towards ST in this case.

Portal neutral fic!?

And they call SD.Net Biased

First they that trek would win then when shown the ICS they say we can't compare the 2 universes.
I think it's better for someone with more experience in debates do something about it.

And there is more crap awaiting...

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-04-20 07:17pm

I registered and im officially going to start handing these morons their asses as soon as my registration is approved. Though im sure that i will be banned in less than a week by some moron administrator who refuses to believe the facts.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-04-20 08:07pm

Oh.......my........god....

really....sweet jesus, mary mother of god, jehosophat mandela with cream and cherries on!

[southern preacher]I mean....my gawd!

Brother, i urge thee to lay the righteous smackdown on these unbelievers. Can i get an amen to that?
[/southern preacher]

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2003-04-20 08:14pm

AMEN, BROTHER!!!!!!!

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-04-20 08:40pm

I don't think it's worth tainting yourself to even go in. If they're going on about "inversion shield flux though subspace level two ontop of a tachyon blast" they are not going to compare things on real terms...

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-04-20 09:12pm

Stupidity that vast needs the purify touch of NAPALM!

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-04-20 09:32pm

Some Dumbass wrote: "Sure a phaser "may" not be able to do anything to a SW Destroyer, but what about a tachyon burst? Or an inverse polarion field? What about a ressonance burst from the main deflector?"

TACHYON BURST?! Inverse Polaron Field?!

Goes off to pount head against wall.

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2003-04-20 09:42pm

Reading just the first page can give you a migrane.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-04-20 09:45pm

...I only registered for an account five hours ago....Is the admin. sleeping or something?

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2003-04-20 10:13pm

1.21 'jigoowatts' of Trek moronity

moron wrote:"I mean, that's the kind of crap that people make fun of about SF. That link [SD.net] talked all about how many jiggowatts of power a ImpStar II can throw out and how big the Death Star is."

Irrelevant (and....recent days Trek is more crapped than Wars, one doesn't need to bother about how R2 fixed the MF or Amidala's ship, but one MUST bother and get annoyed how [technobabble] this and [technobabble] that using [technobabble] this to [technobabble] that can fix the [technobabble])

"Personaly, I think an Oberth class ship would make short work of any SW vessel."

So it's an 'I think' with no backup.

"What I'd want to see is the Scimitar vs. and Imperial Star Desroyer. My bet's on the Reman Warbird."

The Reman Warbird is at the KT level, the cloak can be detected by simple systems without Trek personell using them, the maneuverability is good but the ISD gunners are highly experienced with shooting targets with awesome craziness performance, the Medusa weapon takes too much time to prime and fire, "I think" and ISD would make short work of the Reman Warbird.

"Genesis Device 1, Death Star 0."

The Device requires a ship to launch it, the Death Star has shields, let the surface defenses cripple the ship and we get a ST:TWOK scenario...with nothing happening to the DS, and no time to fix the ship's warp core.

"I dont believe the SD's turbolasers could penetrate Fed shields."

If believing can backup arguments, then I believe Solo's blaster CAN penetrate Fed shields.

"Sure a phaser "may" not be able to do anything to a SW Destroyer, but what about a tachyon burst? Or an inverse polarion field? What about a ressonance burst from the main deflector?"

So ST wins by it's technobabbles of the week? The sad part of this is:the Trek methods are heavily relied on technology, unfortunately, SW is very much advanced .

Also, the Engineers/Sci Officers/Ops couldn't work out a holy technobabble to wipe out the Dominion fleet in a jiffy, how could they work it out on SW?

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2003-04-20 10:20pm

I wonder if the people over there making these stupid remarks read this thread, that be intresting.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-04-20 10:27pm

LMAO...yeah nice to see people who haven't taken physics 101 bitch when their universe falls short.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-04-21 03:01am

Well apparently not all posts are so brainless. Like this one, isn't so bad (to counter the "deflector dish will [technobabble] the ISD"):

Kinnison wrote:Of course a ship's capabilities would exceed to a certain extent what is seen onscreen. One must make do with what data is available. Of course it is possible that the deflector dish can be modified into the potent weapon the multiverse has ever known, but it seems pretty unlikely. OTOH, maybe an ISD can open up like a giant clam, and Jesus is in there, and he'll turn the water in everyone's bodies onboard the Enterprise into wine, and they'll all die.

Stick to the known facts.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-04-21 03:22am

If someone want's to play "judge on a long walk" don't let me stop you.

Just keep here out of the picture =, ok?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-04-21 03:27am

The what on a long what what?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-04-21 03:34am

2000ad comics

"The Long Walk" when a Judge (As in Judge Dredd) retires they go out into the nuclear irradiated wasteland with their infinte ammo pistols (Law givers can manufacture new bullets just add any material), and bring law and justice to the wasteland. (Read kill a shit load of mutants before dying)

Thus a long walk is an epic that may not be possible to complete (So far only Dredd has survived it....)

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-04-21 08:41am

The sad thing is, these... people, have assimilated so much Trek, they can only resort to Treknobabble. Seriously, inverse polaron field? Resonance burst from the main deflector dish? Eeeesshhhhh!

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-04-21 03:00pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote: Thus a long walk is an epic that may not be possible to complete (So far only Dredd has survived it....)

I thought Dredd survived it because he went back to the Mega-City? Isn't that technically not finishing your long walk?

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2003-04-21 03:22pm

2000AD wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote: Thus a long walk is an epic that may not be possible to complete (So far only Dredd has survived it....)
I thought Dredd survived it because he went back to the Mega-City? Isn't that technically not finishing your long walk?

That's why Yosemite said Dredd SURVIVED The Walk, not finished it

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-21 03:38pm

I CALL IT!

Registering now...

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-04-21 05:00pm

I'm always happy to crush ignorant Trekkies.

"I'm going in. Cover me Porkins."

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-21 05:33pm

gahhh! my teeth are splitting!!

plz, put logic in this forum? plz plz plz?

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-04-21 05:37pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I CALL IT!

Registering now...

Did you get that approval notice thingamajig?

Cyaround,
Jason

StarDestroyer.Net BBS

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