Most Revolutionary FPS?

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-04-21 01:07am

Well? Personally, I'd have to say Half-Life. IMO, it created modern multiplayer, gave us a super-new visual "wow", gave life to NPCs, and created those scary-ass headcrabs. Plus they put a fairly mysterious plot behind it all, setting the standard for all FPSs on.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-04-21 01:12am

For me it's a tie between Quake and Doom.

Doom started the trend toward eventual full-3d gaming and was the first game ever to be truly and massively modded by the fan community (all those hacks, maps, TCs, etc).

Quake because it was the online multiplayer revolution. It started the whole online multiplayer ball rolling.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 01:17am

Probably Half Life, though R6 did show that you could make a great game with realistic weapons and effects.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-04-21 01:20am

For me, it's a tossup between Wolfenstein 3D and Half-Life. Wolfenstein 3D was *the* first 3-D shooter game, period; all the previous Castle Wolfenstein games had been text-based, and most graphical games were flat and two-dimensional.

However, Half-Life, as Jedi said, further revolutionized the FPS genre. It's also a testament to its engine enhancements that Counterstrike is such a widely played game.

By the way, why is Unreal missing? The Unreal engine was equally revolutionary, in that it was the first game to feature an alternate weapon fire, as well as being incredibly detailed and having amazing graphics that are, IMO, superior to most any Quake-based shooter.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-04-21 01:24am

Crayz9000 wrote:Wolfenstein 3D was *the* first 3-D shooter game, period; all the previous Castle Wolfenstein games had been text-based, and most graphical games were flat and two-dimensional.

IIRC there were one or two games that preceded Wolf 3D that were technically both 3D and shooters. One involved dinosaurs. It was in a PCGamer a while ago.

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Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-04-21 01:26am

Crayz9000 wrote:By the way, why is Unreal missing? The Unreal engine was equally revolutionary, in that it was the first game to feature an alternate weapon fire, as well as being incredibly detailed and having amazing graphics that are, IMO, superior to most any Quake-based shooter.

I knew I was forgetting a few, so I put in "other". I thought of it a few minutes after I posted but was too lazy to edit the poll.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-04-21 01:26am

I would give it to Wolf3D, for essentially inventing the genre.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-04-21 01:35am

Thief. System Shock. Deus Ex.

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Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-21 01:38am

Wasn't Dark Forces one of the first to put a real story into FPS games? That qualifies.

I'd have to give the most revolutionary to either Wolfenstien 3D or Doom.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-04-21 01:40am

I picked other for the Dark Forces line of games. My favorite parts was the huge depth of the levels.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-04-21 01:52am

Stormbringer wrote:Wasn't Dark Forces one of the first to put a real story into FPS games? That qualifies.

Dark Forces put a real story into FPSs--and so did Unreal--but what Half-Life did was not just the story, it was how you could interact with other characters in a non-lethal manner.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-21 02:25am

Wolf 3D, first popular 3D shooter.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-04-21 02:38am

I would think it was Doom, it bought FPS's right into the public eye, at least in my area anyway.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-04-21 02:49am

I gave my vote to Wolfenstein 3D.

First off, it started this whole craze. Outside of the Commodore 64, it was the first PC game I ever played. That was at a friends house. Then my brother moved back to the house and had all 6 episodes on the computer. I played every last one of those things all the way through. That's actually irrelevant. I just hijacked my own post. LoL.

I never actually playe much of Doom. Did a Doom Lan once. Too me, it really seemed like Wolfenstein, with more or less added controls. It aimed up, it aimed down. yay. Quake though, really took it to the next step. I will agree that Half Life gave the genre a new ability, and that was interaction. It felt like you were more into the game than normal. To me it wasn't like extrodinarily great though.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-21 05:14am

Quake. The first truly 3-dimensional shoot-them-up game.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-04-21 05:27am

Doom ... ( it was the first epic saga ) ... and then quake. People are still using the engine to this day, you cant fuck with that.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-04-21 05:50am

I'd say Half-Life. The scripted sequences were, IMO, the best used in an FPS at that time and that made Half-Life stand out.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-04-21 07:49am

3rd Impact wrote:I'd say Half-Life. The scripted sequences were, IMO, the best used in an FPS at that time and that made Half-Life stand out.

They used the quake engine ...

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-21 07:52am

Doom. All the rest are just followers, and though Wolfenstein was called Wolfenstein 3D, it was really 2D. So I say Doom. Man, what a game that was. Played it when I was 12 years old, I did. Man those were the days.

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-04-21 08:23am

Duke3d the whole way. heck i still play it! I thought it was far superiour to Quake I

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-04-21 10:36am

aphexmonster wrote:
3rd Impact wrote:I'd say Half-Life. The scripted sequences were, IMO, the best used in an FPS at that time and that made Half-Life stand out.
They used the quake engine ...

The Quake I engine, to be precise. (I remember getting into arguments over this a couple years ago on alt.games.jedi-knight.) However, the people at Valve Software modified the engine beyond all recognition; remember that the Q1 engine originally ran under DOS? The HL Q1 engine runs only under Win32.

About the only thing that the HL engine shares with Quake is how the configuration is done...

DeadM · Post by **DeadM** » 2003-04-21 10:43am

Yes, I remember I read production diary or something about HL, and they said that the HL engine was a hybrid of the Q1 engine and Q2 engine plus some extra tweaking.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-04-21 10:44am

Doom or Half-Life.

Doom because honestly it did start it all. Perhaps not starting it at a true beginning but it's what gave the genre life aside from a few of us huddled playing Wolf 3D.

Half-Life while wasn't completely new, did introduce things that even Quake didn't and did give new life into it.

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-04-21 11:38am

If you want a beginning to the genre....Wolf3d gave you that

The totally emmersive world...right up to the point you yourself were hurling curses at those bloody marines throwing grenades about like they were going out of fashion....halflife all the way...

It still looks damn good too

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-04-21 03:56pm

Defenitly the Quake series. It gave us kickass single player (rumour has it that the single player for Q2 was so good they delayed the launch of half life), it started the multiplayer craze and it's given us game engines that are being used by the shit load today!