[STGOD] ORBAT Declaration

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-04-20 03:22pm

First part up, including all the capships I will be using earrly on (Cruisers and battleships)

C'tan Star Confederacy Order of Battle

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-20 03:30pm

Stormbringer wrote:Oh, if anyone can help me with the ground forces that'd be appreciated.

What kind of help do you need?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-20 06:16pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Oh, if anyone can help me with the ground forces that'd be appreciated.
What kind of help do you need?

Everything basically.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-21 12:44am

The Imperial Roman Starfleet
In times of war, rebellion, and strife, the Imperial Starfleet is the hammer, axe, and anvil of New Rome's spaceborne armada. From it's headquarters on Augustia, the admirals of the fleet regulate and control it's activities with the finest degree of precision and skill.

The fleet exceeds fifteen hundred major ships; however, only four hundred of these are the warships that comprise the Warfleet. The rest are cargo haulers, science vessels, shuttles and resupply ships that comprise the Imperial Cargo and Supply fleets. These numbers can be supplemented during offensives with mercenaries and privateers- so long as the imperial coffers hold out. There are also numerous attack shuttles and troop carriers that are held in the belly of the Imperial warships.

The majority of the fleet's weapons, ships, and equipment are manufactored on Earth, New Byzantine, and the Mars colony Caesar Station. The resources necessary for the fleet is mined from Mars, Earth, Trajan and the asteroid belt of Octavius.

The Imperial Warfleet
Oppungnare-class- 150
The Oppungare-class ships are the backbone of the Imperial fleet. Heavily armed and armored, they are the brutal iron wedge that leads any assault. Oppungare are extremely durable and the X-lasers they utilize are twice as powerful as their numerous missiles. Oppungare rely on their swift ion fusion drives to close with the enemy while using their tractor beams to hold enemy fighters in place for their missiles while they pummel capital ships with X-lasers before deploying their marines to attack the disabled foe.

Armament
15x missile tubes capable of rapid fire
15x X-Laser deployment tubes
10x tractor-grappling beams
800x mid-yield nuclear warheads
500x high yield warheads for use in X-laser burst

Protection
20x point-defense missle-tracking laser guns
Reinforced hull armor
Ablative armor
Thermal-redirection heatsinks
Heavy electromagnetic shielding

Ships-On-Board
25x troop carriers w/ 2 X-Lasers + 50 warheads + 1 light tractor beam
10x attack shuttles w/ 2 missile tubes + 150 missiles

Personnel
8000 crew
200 command staff
3500 marines

Arcus-class- 100
Arcus-class ships are essentially mobile missile platforms. Lacking any sort of close-combat capability their sole purpose is to soften up enemy fleets before the Oppugnare close. They are quite large and just as durable as Oppugnare, but they lack any sort of meaningful troop capacity and they have no X-laser capability.

Armament
40x rapid-fire missile tubes
2000x mid-yield nuclear warheads

Protection
20x point-defense missle-tracking laser guns
Reinforced Hull Armor
Ablative armor
Thermal-redirection heatsinks
Medium electromagnetic shielding

Personnel
1500 crew
50 command staff
500 marines

Gustus-class- 25
Gustus-class ships are the policemen of the Octavius system. They ply the shipping lanes between the worlds, maintaing order. They are used to attack raiders and hunt down pirates. Should Octavius be attacked, it will fall to them to form the first line of defense, overwhelming enemy weaponry with bursts of X-laser fire. The fleet has only recently been refitted with short-range FTL drives, limiting their offensive effectiveness. Gustus ships are also used for diplomatic escorts or ferries for VIPs.

Armament
20x X-Laser deployment tubes
5x tractor-grappling beams
800x mid-yield nuclear warheads for use in X-lasers

Protection
5x point-defense missle-tracking laser guns
Ablative armor
Thermal-redirection heatsinks

Personnel
500 crew
50 command staff
200 marines

I'll edit in more when I'm not so tired.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 12:56am

Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Oh, if anyone can help me with the ground forces that'd be appreciated.
What kind of help do you need?
Everything basically.

In that case I suggest you just create TO&E's for your forces, and ignore equipment. That's what I did to get things finished quickly, once I have a better idea of just what DS9 technology means to people I can get specific about equipment.

This page should be somewhat helpful in creating a rough TO&E

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/army/unit/index.html

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-04-21 04:53am

Fenari Clans
Note the fenari Pack/Clans each have their own Military/Merchant force, resulting in constant infighting.

Typical Cruiser Fleet Packs:

4 Cruiser Class vessels (Drakkar class)
2 "Beta Hunter" class Destroyers

Drakkar Class Cruisers: 240 (Devided between all of the Clans)
500kt Displacement
120kt Crew and drive displacement
200kt Modular Displacement
60 kt Fusion Laser Turret displacement
100kt Missile launcher&Ammo
20kt CWIS displacement

Available Missions

Mining: Vessel is outfitted with a ventral docking/launch bay and about 60 (Mining Pods *think 2001 a space oddessy, with mining lasers, nuclear bombs (For blowing apart asteriods) etc. the remaing 150 KT is set aside for hauling the mined ore.

Merchant Marine: 200kt of cargo space/can also be used for fleet tender duties

Exploration/Exploitation:
50 KT Pod Rigs
100 KT Stores/Reserve Fuels
50 KT advanced sensors

Landing Ship: 3 times Teleport Booth, Ground Forces

Warship:
100 KT Extra Missile Bays
20 KT Stores <Reloads for Missiles?
60 KT Two Forward Inlined Lineriar Acclerators (Large Rail Guns)
20 KT Ammo Stores

No more then 10% of the Drakkars are Military Models.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-21 05:16am

Minmatar Order of Battle
(Not complete)

Drone Classes Each < 5m

SWACS
-Detects concealed vessels and provides battlefield tactical information

Attack Drone
- One light weapon, thruster, basic targetting AI

Re-supply Drone
- Drone designed to carry munitions for mid-battle resupply. They can also carry fuel, food, parts and other assorted supplies neccessary for sustained battlefield deployment.

Repair Spider
- Can conduct repairs during battle.

Fighter Classes < 30m

Sorsa - Superiority
- 4 light weapons, 8 missiles

Barrelatt - Bombing
- 2 light weapons, 8 missiles, 4 torpedoes

Xeron – Interception
- 6 light weapons, 4 missiles, very fast

Sub-Capital Classes <200m
Barrage - Gunship
Senator - Missile ship
Sword - Frigate
Io - Light Carrier

Capital Classes <1km
Jesus - Destroyer
Moses - Light Cruiser
Allah - Cruiser
Martyr - Heavy Cruiser
Headway - Battleship
Civility - Carrier
Dystopia - Missile Ship

Super-Capital Classes <10km
Art of War - Dreadnaught
Will to Power - Juggernaut
Republic - Super Carrier

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-04-21 10:39am

HemlockGrey wrote:15x missile tubes capable of firing at 5 rps
15x X-Laser deployment tubes
10x tractor-grappling beams
800x nuclear warheads rated at .5 gigatons each
500x warheads rated at 1 gigaton for use in X-laser burst

.5 Gt?

1 Gt?

ST:DS9??!!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-21 10:53am

Point. I'll edit.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-04-21 01:35pm

Better. Thanks (horrible imaginings of 1 GT Xasers flying around in ST:DS9 level...)

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-21 01:51pm

Blech. I just noticed my ship-names are a little bland and generic.

Oh well.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-21 01:58pm

NecronLord wrote:Better. Thanks (horrible imaginings of 1 GT Xasers flying around in ST:DS9 level...)

I technically have that level of firepower, but given the recharge time, I think it should be okay.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-21 02:55pm

You know, you can actually get away with not posting a specific firepower amount, at least for all your weapons anyway. Some people on ASVS are finding it much easier to say what the ship's are supposed to do as opposed giving specific firepower ratings. Low yield - rapid fire, high yield - 5 minute cooldown time, ect. The reason why is that people have different ideas about what certain damage numbers will do. It's just a lot easier to say "can inflict crippling damager to a 400m ship with 6m thick composite armor" then it is to grab a calculater and work out exactly what the MTage required for it. It's not just the explosive force behind each blast either, there's also penetration factor, shaped charges and the like to worry about.

De-quantifing firepower in an STGOD is also beneficial in keeping arms races at bay, arms races being something we want to avoid on account of where the end up going. Multiple turreted super lasers anyone?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 03:08pm

Spyder wrote:Multiple turreted super lasers anyone?

For point defence.....

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-21 03:25pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Spyder wrote:Multiple turreted super lasers anyone?
For point defence.....

To true, the main weapon would be one that fires a projectile that destroys universes, and would look like a giant penis.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 03:35pm

Spyder wrote:
Top true, the main weapon would be one that fires a projectile that destroys universes, and would look like a giant penis.

Which is why I've avoided listing a single solid number on my shielding, weapons yield or speed. "Highly competitive" will do.

I've given my self advantages, some big capital ships and the Sea Wolf subs of the stealth combat, and countered it by making my escorts weak and overall fleet only 225 major vessels overall, most of them lacking FTL or just being small and weak.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-21 04:39pm

Oceania Union Forces:
Not complete

Major combatants:
Shanghai class Battleship: 2
Wellington class battlecruiser: 20
Jakarta class battlecruiser: 20 (older cruiser)
Kuala Lumpur class cruiser: 40
Taipei class destroyer: 90
Singapore class frigate: 120

Darwin class drone carrier: 20
Springfield class planetary assault transport: 30

Drone fighters:
Tigershark light fighter
Bobcat heavy fighter

EDIT: class numbers changed slightly.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-21 08:07pm

Beowulf wrote:Oceania Union Forces:
Not complete

Major combatants:
Shanghai class Battleship: 2
Darwin class drone carrier: 10
Wellington class battlecruiser: 30
Jakarta class battlecruiser: 30 (older cruiser)
Kuala Lumpur class cruiser: 60
Taipei class destroyer: 100
Singapore class frigate: 150

Drone fighters:
Tigershark light fighter
Bobcat heavy fighter

I'm not sure if you just prefer using Darwin (if that is the case then please disregard), but the capital of Australia is Canberra.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 08:13pm

Spyder wrote:
I'm not sure if you just prefer using Darwin (if that is the case then please disregard), but the capital of Australia is Canberra.

I don't think he's going for all real capitals, Shanghai also isn't a national capital. Though it is the largest city in China today.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-21 08:18pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
I don't think he's going for all real capitals, Shanghai also isn't a national capital. Though it is the largest city in China today.

Darwin just seemed like an odd choice to me, especially given that he used Wellington, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and Taipei.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-21 08:57pm

Spyder wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
I don't think he's going for all real capitals, Shanghai also isn't a national capital. Though it is the largest city in China today.
Darwin just seemed like an odd choice to me, especially given that he used Wellington, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and Taipei.

I used it because I fucking felt like it, ok?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-21 09:07pm

Beowulf wrote:
I used it because I fucking felt like it, ok?

Obviously not in Spyder world

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-21 09:58pm

Spyder wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
I don't think he's going for all real capitals, Shanghai also isn't a national capital. Though it is the largest city in China today.
Darwin just seemed like an odd choice to me, especially given that he used Wellington, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and Taipei.

Or another way to put it, this takes place 800 years in the future, don't expect anything to be similar. The names were chosen because fish don't vote.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-22 01:09am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
I used it because I fucking felt like it, ok?
Obviously not in Spyder world

Hmmm, another one I've pissed off at some point...Name seems familiar...

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-22 01:11am

Beowulf wrote:
Spyder wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
I don't think he's going for all real capitals, Shanghai also isn't a national capital. Though it is the largest city in China today.
Darwin just seemed like an odd choice to me, especially given that he used Wellington, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and Taipei.
I used it because I fucking felt like it, ok?

Spyder wrote:(if that is the case then please disregard)