Why do you hate fundies so much? They're harmless, right?

[Hotfoot]

I realize.

How could sixteen and seventeen year old guys beat and sexually harrass a girl because she was an atheist. Disgusting.

Well, she wasn't little when the sexual harrassment started...at least as far as I can tell.

As for the rest, well...you're absolutely right, it is disgusting.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Do you still wonder why I sometimes, just sometimes, still feel like a victim?

Goddamn, you think you're the only one who had a shitty childhood
and had to put up with bullies?' In the immortal advice of my dad after
I told him about some bullies at school, "Punch them in the nose, and
they'll leave you alone"

Maybe you didn't bother reading the elaborating quotes Hotfoot posted?

Have you no sympathy for other human beings?

[Queeb Salaron]

Now you're going to claim that your bones are super-strong unbreakable materials.

Real life isn't where you magically shrug off hits. Real life FUCKING HURTS.

No fucking shit. I've got a medical report about as thick as my thigh. My chest, neck and arms look like fucking road-maps from the scars. Pen-knives to 10" Bowies, I've probably been cut by it. 1/4" wood dowels to lead pipes, I've probably been hit by it. Got set on fire once, and let me tell you how much fun THAT was. Skin grafts are damned expensive, too. Broken bones, contusions, welts that lasted for days, black eyes that put me near-blind (praise be for the wonders of laser eye surgery and modern medicine's pain killers). I've got scars in places that you, Shep, don't have body parts. No, my bones are not unbreakable. No, I am not undefeatable. But if you waved a Louisville slugger at me, I'd laugh at you.

*takes look at Aluminum baseball bat in his closet*

*laughs* Anything but a headshot with an aluminum bat is useless. They're great for hitting hard objects like skulls and kneecaps, but the torso and fleshy limbs absorb the impact of aluminum too well. It's physics. Aluminum bats have less mass. Force = mass * accelleration. And unless you have arms like Jose Canseco, you're not going to get an aluminum bat around NEARLY fast enough to make up for the lost mass. You'd be better of staying with a wooden bat.

[Utsanomiko]

Threads like this make me wonder why I keep shep on my AIM list. Try to mention the hateful things 'Good Christians' can do, and he starts rambling about baseball bats.

[Hamel]

[21:43] Adam: they are against everything you are. at least the ones that see the light of the lord
[21:43] Monkey D. Luffy: adam, you sound like a klan member
MkSheppard: who is you
A11YourBas3: teh monkay
Session Close (MkSheppard): Wed Apr 23 21:47:10 2003


Session Start (AIM - A11YourBas3:MKSheppard): Wed Apr 23 21:47:15 2003
MKSheppard: screwing with his head?
A11YourBas3: t
A11YourBas3: he can't be reasoned with
A11YourBas3: it's just impossible
MKSheppard: funny just start shouting SEIG HEIL to a hard core liberal
MKSheppard: or DEATH TO WHITEY to a Klansman
MKSheppard: it garuantees funny shit will happen
A11YourBas3: i usually talk dirty to them
A11YourBas3: like tugging on their dicks and stuff
A11YourBas3: bah, fucking earthlink

I think he was bored and needed a drink

[Vertigo1]

I am absolutely at a loss for words after reading that. Shit like this pisses me off to no end.

I hope those assholes die an excruciatingly painful death.

[weemadando]

Perhaps if everyone took some time off their days to will these bastards to suddenly drop dead and die, perhaps, through the combined force of our wills, it can happen.

You know, I'd be more than happy to kill some of these fuckers myself, especially considering some of the shit that I've had to put up with which was no-where NEAR this fucking level of things.

Its actually one of my ambitions in life to start a series of schools across the world that are COMPLETELY non-denominational and atheistic in their teachings. We won't discriminate against students if they wish to retain religious beliefs but the moment they are found preaching or any shit like that they are out on their fucking arses.

[Utsanomiko]

Perhaps if everyone took some time off their days to will these bastards to suddenly drop dead and die, perhaps, through the combined force of our wills, it can happen.

Nah, only 'Good, God-fearing Christians' are big enough assholes to think asking for someone to die or suffer is a good deed.

They aren't saying "it's ok; they're going to Hell for their sins" for our sake and need for security, you know.

[Dalton]

Sometimes I think it could be better. Sometimes I think humanity just might unite, or at least become civilized to the degree where violence is not encouraged against those who are different. And sometimes I read things like this, which plunges me into a deep despair, where I realize how disgustingly primitive we are, and how utterly despicable we can be. We fight a war on terror abroad, a war against supposed dictators and totalitarian regimes, and we do nothing to heal ourselves, to fight the terrorism within our own borders, perpetrated by people we are supposed to trust.

This is why I fight; this is why we must fight.

I am sad, but I will never, ever give up, not while there is breath in this body...

"Look at the shoes your filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more..."

[Johonebesus]

How could sixteen and seventeen year old guys beat and sexually harrass a girl because she was an atheist. Disgusting.

Simple: human beings are nasty evil creatures that delight in hating and hurting other humans. All they need is an excuse. In this case it was because she was an atheist surrounded by fundamentalist trash. Lots of towns have a few select souls whose job it is to be hated and reviled by everyone.

Of course, some people also anger me when they take the actions of a few and apply those to everyone, in this case, the actions of a few outrageous extreemists who were lookign for a way to beat up the kid, and applying that to all Christians, or, more specifically, Southern Baptists. I know plenty of Southern Baptists who would never THINK of doing this.

I too know some relatively decent Southern Baptists (actually one, and she still fusses at me to try to like women). Unfortunately, the majority are fundamentalist, ignorant, and hateful. The fact is Southern Baptists are descended from a type of Christianity that preached that most people are preordained to be damned and so are unworthy of anything but contempt. This worldview encouraged these Christians to hate anybody who was not of their church. Who is to say what is "true Christianity" and what is "extremism"? Numerically, fundamentalists and evangelicals, the types that look at the world in terms of "Us Christians" and "Those Evil Sinners/Enemies of God" are the plurality of Christians in America.

Maybe the fine members at the local First Baptist would not condone such violence, but they did not hesitate to fire their youth minister when his wife walked out on him and his three young children, two twin babies and a toddler with Down Syndrome, after he contracted Mono. His church had a little hearing and decided the divorce was not his fault; he did everything he could to save his marriage, but it was more Christian to take away the income from a man with three small children and mounting medical bills than to have a divorcé in their employ. Keeping themselves pure was worth kicking a man when he was down. This sort of thing happens all the time in Baptist churches. Sure, a few folks get sidgusted and leave, and several are a bit uncormfortable, but the majority are glad to rid themselves and the community of evil sinners, even those guilty by association. I am very much convinced that Calvin was about the worst thing to happen to Christianity.

[Frank Hipper]

Fucking idiots! Don't they know Mono is not the "kissing disease"? I caught mono and I hadn't been in any sort of contact with another human being for months! Well, aside from hugging my mom and such, but you get the picture.....

[Johonebesus]

Fucking idiots! Don't they know Mono is not the "kissing disease"? I caught mono and I hadn't been in any sort of contact with another human being for months! Well, aside from hugging my mom and such, but you get the picture.....

No, it's worse than that. They didn't fire him because he had done anything wrong; their little hearing cleared him of any charges. They just could not have a divorcé, even if they agreed he was totally innocent and wronged by his wife. Of course, they didn't beat and torment him for years, so he got off easy.

[MKSheppard]

No fucking shit. I've got a medical report about as thick as my thigh. My chest, neck and arms look like fucking road-maps from the scars. Pen-knives to 10" Bowies, I've probably been cut by it. 1/4" wood dowels to lead pipes, I've probably been hit by it. Got set on fire once, and let me tell you how much fun THAT was. Skin grafts are damned expensive, too. Broken bones, contusions, welts that lasted for days, black eyes that put me near-blind (praise be for the wonders of laser eye surgery and modern medicine's pain killers). I've got scars in places that you, Shep, don't have body parts. No, my bones are not unbreakable. No, I am not undefeatable. But if you waved a Louisville slugger at me, I'd laugh at you.

If you've been set on fire plus all the shit above, why do you still look
like a pretty boy?

[MKSheppard]

I think he was bored and needed a drink

The Funny thing is, I can't fucking drink. For some reason,
I fucking HATE the taste of alcohol.

[Queeb Salaron]

No fucking shit. I've got a medical report about as thick as my thigh. My chest, neck and arms look like fucking road-maps from the scars. Pen-knives to 10" Bowies, I've probably been cut by it. 1/4" wood dowels to lead pipes, I've probably been hit by it. Got set on fire once, and let me tell you how much fun THAT was. Skin grafts are damned expensive, too. Broken bones, contusions, welts that lasted for days, black eyes that put me near-blind (praise be for the wonders of laser eye surgery and modern medicine's pain killers). I've got scars in places that you, Shep, don't have body parts. No, my bones are not unbreakable. No, I am not undefeatable. But if you waved a Louisville slugger at me, I'd laugh at you.

If you've been set on fire plus all the shit above, why do you still look
like a pretty boy?

The picture you're referring to is my senior picture. There's a 3" scar on my left cheek that was fixed by the miracles of photoshop by the photographer before it was put in my yearbook. One of my better friends from high school had a case of chronic acne, and his picture came out without a single visible blemish. The scars on my forearms were also fixed, though they're really not terribly visible anyway in that light from that angle.

If you'd like, I could send you some unaltered photographs, some taken by the police, mugshots from nights spent in jail after a good fight, x-rays... maybe I could even get a video or two hosted by someone that show some of the better fights.

That is, if you want to be an asshole about it.

[MKSheppard]

Threads like this make me wonder why I keep shep on my AIM list. Try to mention the hateful things 'Good Christians' can do, and he starts rambling about baseball bats.

Perhaps you didn't notice that I was specifically talking about putting a bat
to said fundie's heads? I mean for fuck's sake, kicking a girl in the face
with fucking CLEATS needs a carefully measured response back.

[MKSheppard]

If you'd like, I could send you some unaltered photographs, some taken by the police .....

That is, if you want to be an asshole about it.

Go ahead, my email is rrc3813@yahoo.com

I'm not an asshole, I just like to VERIFY stuff. If you do send me the
photos I'll apologize to you and eat crow. YUM, crow YUM.

[Queeb Salaron]

Perhaps you didn't notice that I was specifically talking about putting a bat
to said fundie's heads? I mean for fuck's sake, kicking a girl in the face
with fucking CLEATS needs a carefully measured response back.

Yeah. Measured in mm or caliber.

I think a .38 would work fine.

[MKSheppard]

Yeah. Measured in mm or caliber.

I think a .38 would work fine.

We want them to learn a lesson that doesn't include us spending several years
in jail for attempted murder one

So no firearms

[Queeb Salaron]

We want them to learn a lesson that doesn't include us spending several years
in jail for attempted murder one

So no firearms

Hmm... Then here's what we do. Take a leather belt and tie his arms to his sides. Stand him on a chair in the garage. Tie a rope to a rafter, and loop the end around his neck. Stick him with 100 cc of Curare in the scalp where they won't see the scar. His legs go limp, he hangs himself. Unbind his hands, kick the chair out from under him, and let him sit there. Leave.

Curare doesn't show up on tox screens, unless you're looking for it. Looks like a suicide. The only tough part is obtaining the curare. And that's almost a non-issue if you know where to look.

[MKSheppard]

Curare doesn't show up on tox screens, unless you're looking for it. Looks like a suicide. The only tough part is obtaining the curare. And that's almost a non-issue if you know where to look.

Remind me never to piss you off IRL.

[Queeb Salaron]

Curare doesn't show up on tox screens, unless you're looking for it. Looks like a suicide. The only tough part is obtaining the curare. And that's almost a non-issue if you know where to look.

Remind me never to piss you off IRL.

Don't piss me off IRL.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Eep!!

[MKSheppard]

Eep!!

We've scared Einy away!

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Eep!!

We've scared Einy away!

Think again, buster.