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See this story from the Guardian.

Basically, the gist of it is that there are at least three children brought from Afghanistan at Camp Delta between 13 and 15 being held as "enemy combatants" in violation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which the US has signed, but not ratified.
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I think journalists forgot that Islamic fundies put weapons in the hands of teenagers.
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Montcalm wrote:I think journalists forgot that Islamic fundies put weapons in the hands of teenagers.
It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
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Ted wrote: It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Are these the same butthole Human Rights Conventions that say we
can't execute 17 year old mass-murderers?
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MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote: It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Are these the same butthole Human Rights Conventions that say we
can't execute 17 year old mass-murderers?
It is against the UN Human rights to execute ANYONE, no matter what they have done.
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MKSheppard wrote:Are these the same butthole Human Rights Conventions that say we
can't execute 17 year old mass-murderers?
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Ted wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote: It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Are these the same butthole Human Rights Conventions that say we
can't execute 17 year old mass-murderers?
It is against the UN Human rights to execute ANYONE, no matter what they have done.
sorry teddy-boy, but...
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I might raise an eyebrow when someone demonstrates that teenagers aren't capable of murdering or being terrorists.
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Ted wrote:
It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Why not? Because there below an artificial thread hold much of the world has set?
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Ted wrote:
Montcalm wrote:I think journalists forgot that Islamic fundies put weapons in the hands of teenagers.
It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Brutal?
"As soon as their ages were confirmed in medical tests, the children were moved to a "dedicated juvenile facility" at the camp, where they could socialise with each other, according to Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson, a spokesman at the base.

"They are in a secure environment free from the influences of older detainees," Lt Col Johnson said. "They are receiving specialist mental health care, in recognition of the difficult circumstances that child combatants go through, and some basic education in terms of reading and writing." Efforts were under way to contact their home nations, he added. "
"Since then, the US has built Camp Delta, a permanent and better-equipped facility, and has been at pains to describe how the inmates' religious and cultural preferences are being catered for. Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross are in regular contact with the inmates. "
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phongn wrote:
Ted wrote:
Montcalm wrote:I think journalists forgot that Islamic fundies put weapons in the hands of teenagers.
It doesn't matter whether they killed millions or no-one, you CANNOT HOLD CHILDREN in such a brutal place, especially seeing as it is against Human Righs conventions.
Brutal?
"As soon as their ages were confirmed in medical tests, the children were moved to a "dedicated juvenile facility" at the camp, where they could socialise with each other, according to Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson, a spokesman at the base.

"They are in a secure environment free from the influences of older detainees," Lt Col Johnson said. "They are receiving specialist mental health care, in recognition of the difficult circumstances that child combatants go through, and some basic education in terms of reading and writing." Efforts were under way to contact their home nations, he added. "
"Since then, the US has built Camp Delta, a permanent and better-equipped facility, and has been at pains to describe how the inmates' religious and cultural preferences are being catered for. Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross are in regular contact with the inmates. "
A CIA fabrication, I'm sure.
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You don't understand their religious observance includes killing small children and women. It is inhumane to not let them practice their religion. Give the prisoners one day passes to Disneyland and a suitcase of C-4. :roll:
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Frank_Scenario wrote:Basically, the gist of it is that there are at least three children brought from Afghanistan at Camp Delta between 13 and 15 being held as "enemy combatants" in violation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which the US has signed, but not ratified.
Awww, poor little kiddie terrorists. :x

They're terrorists, pint sized ones but terrorist none the less. What exactly are we supposed to do with them? Let them go so they can take up arms again? I think not, we detain them and do the best we can to straighten them out.

It's a sad fact of Third World wars that children are used as soldiers. They are just as dangerous as adults, if not more so, and they have to be dealt with accordingly.
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Especially when you remember the sheer viciousness of the Hitler Youth when they vainly but suicidally-bravely defended Berlin against Zhukov's Red Army.
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lukexcom wrote:Especially when you remember the sheer viciousness of the Hitler Youth when they vainly but suicidally-bravely defended Berlin against Zhukov's Red Army.
There were also those two kids who ran amok in Southeast Asia into quite recently.
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lukexcom wrote:Especially when you remember the sheer viciousness of the Hitler Youth when they vainly but suicidally-bravely defended Berlin against Zhukov's Red Army.
We should also keep in mind that the age limit for someone being a child solider under a recent piece of UN legislator is 16, not 18 and indeed you can join some western armies at that age. The UK comes to mind.

Someone being held at 15-13 is hardly an extreme measure, and given the level of brainwashing they've likely been through release is not much of an option. At least with the Hitler Youth they could be marched past the piles of dead in Hitler's death camps and then lived in a country occupied by Allied troops
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