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The anniversary of the Red Star

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The five pointed Red Star has been the symbol of the Russian armed forces for 85 years this week. Between 1994 and 2002, the star was replaced by the Czarist era double headed eagle. But this never caught on, and the red star has returned, probably for good.
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Personally, I like it that way. The Czarist double-headed eagle does nothing for morale- the Red Star is more associated with victory and helps the espirt de corps of the current military.
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That’s nice, though we did already have a fair sized thread on the Red Stars return before. 85 seems like an odd number to celebrate in any special way.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:That’s nice, though we did already have a fair sized thread on the Red Stars return before. 85 seems like an odd number to celebrate in any special way.
Really? My school had an 85 year anniversary as well.

As to the old thread, that was actually regarding the Red Banner, IIRC- and it's ancient and I couldn't find it.
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I wonder what fgalkin's opinion on this is??
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Vympel wrote: Really? My school had an 85 year anniversary as well.

As to the old thread, that was actually regarding the Red Banner, IIRC- and it's ancient and I couldn't find it.
It was on the Red Star. As for dates, in my experience its normally even numbers like 20,50,90 along with 5, 25 and 75 that get special attention. I guess 85 does come up sometimes though.

Doing sometime every year of course, epically with military matters doesn't work too well since most armed forces could find something worth while for every single day several times over.
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I've always preferred the red star to the eagle.
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I like Byzantine relics. :(
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As for the Red Star replacing the Imperial Eagle as symbol of the Russian army, wouldn't this be the equivalent of Germany using the Swastika as symbol of their military??
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Simon H.Johansen wrote:As for the Red Star replacing the Imperial Eagle as symbol of the Russian army, wouldn't this be the equivalent of Germany using the Swastika as symbol of their military??
The Red Star is generally held in higher regard than the swastika, if it were the hammer and sickle it might be a different story though.
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Gandalf wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:As for the Red Star replacing the Imperial Eagle as symbol of the Russian army, wouldn't this be the equivalent of Germany using the Swastika as symbol of their military??
The Red Star is generally held in higher regard than the swastika, if it were the hammer and sickle it might be a different story though.
I thought that the Red Star was just as communist a symbol as the Hammer & Sickle. (sort of to the H&S what the Iron Cross is to the Swastika)
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Simon H.Johansen wrote: I thought that the Red Star was just as communist a symbol as the Hammer & Sickle. (sort of to the H&S what the Iron Cross is to the Swastika)
Nah, it's more a symbol of the Soviet military establishment than a strictly 'communist' symbol, I guess you could say it's like Germany's non-swastika military insignia used during WW2, some of which is still used- of course some of that dates from WW1 ... errr ... never mind.
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Vympel wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote: I thought that the Red Star was just as communist a symbol as the Hammer & Sickle. (sort of to the H&S what the Iron Cross is to the Swastika)
Nah, it's more a symbol of the Soviet military establishment than a strictly 'communist' symbol,
But wasn't the Red Star used by many Western communist movements in the 1960s and 1970s??
I guess you could say it's like Germany's non-swastika military insignia used during WW2, some of which is still used- of course some of that dates from WW1 ... errr ... never mind
By the way, isn't the Iron Cross still used by the Luftwaffe?
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By the way, isn't the Iron Cross still used by the Luftwaffe?
The Iron Cross is still the only medal the entire german military awards for bravery.

It is also still used as nationality marking on aircraft.

IIRC it predates ww1 quite a bit but I`d have to check when the original one was erectet. It´s just a few km from where I am.
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Sebastin wrote:
By the way, isn't the Iron Cross still used by the Luftwaffe?
The Iron Cross is still the only medal the entire german military awards for bravery.

It is also still used as nationality marking on aircraft.

IIRC it predates ww1 quite a bit but I`d have to check when the original one was erectet. It´s just a few km from where I am.
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