It would be unwise not to regard this with at least some degree of skepticism, given the attempts made to establish such links in the past, but this one looks like it might be genuine.
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Ah, I see. I was doing that, but with quotes, so I guess that botched it.
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Nathan F wrote:Wonder how some of the anti-Bushers will take this one...
Not everyone who is against Bush is against his foreign policy... I don't like his domestic policy and his fundyism...
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Well, I won't deny that Saddam probably gave bin Laden some help, especially considering how much they both hated the U.S. But I am suspicious of claims of their being real buddy buddy. These two are polar opposites, both probably wanting the other dead. Any help given was probably minimal.
If no substancial link is ever discovered between the two, it really won't matter to me because I supported the war for other well established reasons.
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hehe. . . me and a teacher at my school are in a friendly little competetion. he lead the peace people during the protests, and I was the loudest pro war fellow.
every week we point out to the news why our position was right.
me: iraq has uranium and chem weapons
him, week later : they've been disproved. no weapons found.
me, week later : they are working with al queda.
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We've been looking for WMD for what, a week and a half? It took the UN putzes years and they didn't find anything. We've still got a long time to search for the stuff.
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Wicked Pilot wrote:Well, I won't deny that Saddam probably gave bin Laden some help, especially considering how much they both hated the U.S. But I am suspicious of claims of their being real buddy buddy. These two are polar opposites, both probably wanting the other dead. Any help given was probably minimal.
I think, Saddam was working on the prinicple of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Saddam's smart enough to know that Al-queda is far more focused on the US than they ever would on Iraq. They'd rather have an Arab dictator who pays lip service to Islam than the US.
They won't be going after him any time soon but they are going after the US now so it's safe enough to help them. I doubt it was terribly close but some relations between the two is possible.
Any ties between Saddam and Al-Quaeda are undoubtedly similar to past ties between Saddam and the United States: temporary, arms-length allies of convenience against a common foe, with no real connection in terms of ideology or long-term goals.
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Sure man, they had nothing to do with each other. Meetings as far back as five years ago? Means nothing. Al Quaeda fighters in Iraq? They were probably just there on vacation.
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GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Sure man, they had nothing to do with each other. Meetings as far back as five years ago? Means nothing. Al Quaeda fighters in Iraq? They were probably just there on vacation.
Are you refering to the al-Ansar al-Islam group? They operated in the Kurdish zones and those areas were outside of Saddam's admin.
Durran Korr wrote:
It would be unwise not to regard this with at least some degree of skepticism, given the attempts made to establish such links in the past, but this one looks like it might be genuine.
An interesting article BTW. Perhaps the meeting was just that or perhaps this could be the tip of the iceberg that only time will tell.
Durran Korr wrote:
It would be unwise not to regard this with at least some degree of skepticism, given the attempts made to establish such links in the past, but this one looks like it might be genuine.
An interesting article BTW. Perhaps the meeting was just that or perhaps this could be the tip of the iceberg that only time will tell.
Possibly. Or, it could be some massive buff by Kim Dong Small. But, it could be only the tip of the iceberg. We must face the fact that we really DON'T know what it is. For all we know, he has bought some ex-soviet ICBMs and set up launchers. But, then again, for all we know, all he has is a dirty bomb with a missile that has a 200 mile range.
