Went to Church today...

Hobot · Post by **Hobot** » 2003-04-26 10:37pm

Recently I've been going back to Church (Roman Catholic) in order to hear their interpretation of the Bible. Today the homily was based on the doubting Thomas story. The priest (a weird guy who sounds like a snake) went on and on about the overwhelming evidence in favour of the resurrection. The only specific "evidence" he mentioned was the Shroud of Turin. He dismissed the 1988 carbon dating by saying it was impossible to carbon date cloth and that the fire it was exposed to would have skewed the results...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-04-26 11:08pm

It is NOT impossible to carbon date cloth, and being exposed to a fire cannot interfere with carbon 14 dating!
The church didn't even begin to see the damn thing in a favorable light until recently. It was pronounced a fake by them centuries ago.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-04-26 11:17pm

OK, assume that fire damage makes it impossible to date to date the Shroud (which it doesn't, but assume for the sake of argument). Why assume that the guy it depicts is actually Jesus Christ? Couldn't there have been other guys like him who it depicts? Couldn't it just be a forgery? Why assume that this guy is Jesus without any real evidence for doing so?

Oh, that's right. Because fundies are FUCKING RAGING MORONS.

Hobot · Post by **Hobot** » 2003-04-26 11:21pm

What really gets my goat is that he's spreading misinformation to a church full of people. A few thousand people will listen to him between today and tomorrow...

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-26 11:26pm

He's an idiot. Having faith in the Resurrection is one of the fundementals of Christianity. And if there was overwhelming evidence, he's obviously not faith, now is it?

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-04-27 12:27am

Hobot wrote:Recently I've been going back to Church (Roman Catholic) in order to hear their interpretation of the Bible. Today the homily was based on the doubting Thomas story. The priest (a weird guy who sounds like a snake) went on and on about the overwhelming evidence in favour of the resurrection. The only specific "evidence" he mentioned was the Shroud of Turin. He dismissed the 1988 carbon dating by saying it was impossible to carbon date cloth and that the fire it was exposed to would have skewed the results...

And to think the priest at my parish was always cracking jokes during the homily...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-04-27 12:48am

Mine does too.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-27 03:44am

Frank Hipper wrote:It is NOT impossible to carbon date cloth, and being exposed to a fire cannot interfere with carbon 14 dating!
The church didn't even begin to see the damn thing in a favorable light until recently. It was pronounced a fake by them centuries ago.

They declare the Shroud a fake and then centuries later, they tout is as "evidence for Jesus??"

I don't know whether this is dumb, or just plain laughable.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-04-27 10:08am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:It is NOT impossible to carbon date cloth, and being exposed to a fire cannot interfere with carbon 14 dating!
The church didn't even begin to see the damn thing in a favorable light until recently. It was pronounced a fake by them centuries ago.
They declare the Shroud a fake and then centuries later, they tout is as "evidence for Jesus??"

I don't know whether this is dumb, or just plain laughable.

Well the church needs all the ammunition it can get these days given that most people are not dumb sheep who blindly follow everthing the church says.

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