Enterprise nil v. Death Star II

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-25 09:21pm

Persians at Thermopylae

The Persians broke through at Thermopylae!

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-26 01:37am

JodoForce wrote:
Dalton wrote:God...

This is for those who think the E-nil could take it out with sheer firepower alone.

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460m long? How do you make a crewed starship (flagship class no less) almost fit inside a sports stadium??

The E-D is actually 640m long, but Kynes accidentally flipped the numbers. I should fix that...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-04-26 02:14am

Eeh, a pixel here, a pixel there, whats the difference?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-26 02:15am

Howedar wrote:Eeh, a pixel here, a pixel there, whats the difference?

This would be why I haven't fixed it yet

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-04-26 02:16am

Isolder74 wrote:
JodoForce wrote:U need a better photo editor

To make matters worse I lost the original picture and now I have a good pic editor I can't fix it!

Looks like you got it fixed anyway

Ajaz50 · Post by **Ajaz50** » 2003-04-26 10:00am

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Ajaz50 wrote: There is however 1 way that the Ent could win. Simply crash the damn ship into the deathstar. Subspace explosioton, warp breach, etc.... Its rubble. Of corse then we'd have to kill everyone on bord because the imperials would never let them servive, if they escaped the explosion (assuming they would be stupid enouph to let the Ent that close in the first place) Even that wouldn't distroy it though, only disable it, and only if they hit it the right way.
are you on drugs, son?

even if the ent-nil detonated it would only be in the magnitude of a couple hundred megatons. far less than even a single heavy turbolaser bolt.

It's not the megatons you have to worry about its the spase time fluctuations when the warp drive blows. (not to metion the force of a large ship charging through another) But you are right it still might not distroy the death star but it might damage it badly. As I said the whole point is nil because the Empire's force wouldn't let the Entaprise get that close in the first place.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-26 10:19am

But still, what are you talking about?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-26 06:10pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:But still, what are you talking about?

He thinks that the explosion caused by a m/am reaction out of control would warp spacetime to some degree. Somehow I don't see this happening to any significant amount.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-04-26 09:17pm

Dalton wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:But still, what are you talking about?
He thinks that the explosion caused by a m/am reaction out of control would warp spacetime to some degree. Somehow I don't see this happening to any significant amount.

I think it comes under the section :-
Treknobabble Bullshit please also refrence, assanine bullshit, total bullshit and general bullshit.

The whole large ship hitting another....bugs and windscreens spring to mind.....

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-04-26 11:28pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:The whole large ship hitting another....bugs and windscreens spring to mind.....

G. Moff Tarkin: "You there!"
Misc. DS Crew: "Sir?"
G. Moff Tarkin: "What is that... thing... splattered on the viewscreen?"
Misc. DS Crew: "I believe it was some kind of primitive warship."
G. Moff Tarkin: "Well I want it wiped off immediately! See to it."
Misc. DS Crew: "Yes, sir."

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-27 12:30am

Keevan_Colton wrote:
The whole large ship hitting another....bugs and windscreens spring to mind.....

Small bugs.

Darth Negation · Post by **Darth Negation** » 2003-04-27 02:05am

Aha, how many thing disrupt a TOS era transporter? From TNG onwards, they probably used a failsafe to prevent beaming through anything even slightly dangerous and cannot be removed at any time... which fits with Trek idiocy.

Darth Negation · Post by **Darth Negation** » 2003-04-27 02:09am

I only say this as I can't find a thing in the Mr Wong's database.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-27 02:43am

everything disrupts it. sheilds, heavy metals, local system effects. . .

Darth Negation · Post by **Darth Negation** » 2003-04-27 11:52am

Aha, but all this disruption is shown in TNG, DS9, and VOY. Why does TOS not show these problems??? Eh?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-04-27 12:23pm

Darth Negation wrote:Aha, but all this disruption is shown in TNG, DS9, and VOY. Why does TOS not show these problems??? Eh?

IIRC they arent without thier own problems and seem to have real problems with beaming onto other ships other than transporter to transporter....

Lets not forget ST:TMP.....

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-04-27 02:15pm

I guess the question is whether it's possible to beam through shields AT ALL, never mind what state the object beamed over is in. After all ST has never shown redshirts appearing on the other side as flying sushi, right?

Then we aren't seeing the upper limits of transporter ability.

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-04-27 11:48pm

But you don't know how wide the "intermediate zone" is. It could be VERY wide, or it could be so narrow that there is just about no middle ground - intact transport or totally failed transport.

Darth Negation · Post by **Darth Negation** » 2003-04-28 01:23am

Yes, you could get horribly mutated redshirts... THAT DON'T DIE! AHAHAHAHA-

sorry, sorry, bad joke

Darth Negation · Post by **Darth Negation** » 2003-04-28 01:53am

Actually, how did the fighters get through the shields of the DS1 originally? In ANH, I mean. I remember reading somewhere they flew through "seams in the shields", and so couldn't the E-Nil transport through that?

Yes, I need to come back to the heavy metal part of the arguement later...

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-04-28 02:00am

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:But you don't know how wide the "intermediate zone" is. It could be VERY wide, or it could be so narrow that there is just about no middle ground - intact transport or totally failed transport.

Yeah, that's exactly we don't know.

So for all we know they CAN beam an antimatter bomb through heavy shields and heavy armor and when it reaches the other side it would automatically detonate, having ben broken into a thousand fragments spread evenly through the Death Star

*ahem*
*runs away*

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-04-28 03:32am

JodoForce wrote:*ahem*
*runs away*

Size matters not...

*Uses the Force to pick up a handy TIE cockpit ball, and rolls it like a bowling ball after Jodo*

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-04-28 04:03am

*shoots the cockbit ball to bits using my Wookie bowcaster*

*keeps running*

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-04-28 04:14am

JodoForce wrote:*shoots the cockbit ball to bits using my Wookie bowcaster*

*keeps running*

*Throws a new cockpit ball, this time it's shielded*

Run Forest! Run!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-04-28 04:24am

*just shoots Jodo in the back of the head with a 45 hollowpoint*

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