[STGOD] Preliminary Force Declarations & Rules

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-27 03:22am

The Minmatar are interested in establishing trade routes as soon as possible. Oh, and our diplomat has decided that he will have the large fries.

FBHthelizardmage · Post by **FBHthelizardmage** » 2003-04-27 08:53am

As previously stated, the NNoWL will let anything short of a task force through our systems.

we also won't tax you. We need all the trade we can get.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-04-27 08:55am

The PIR will not restrict trade without a reason. Merchants with peaceful intentions can freely pass PIR territory and do their business.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-27 04:52pm

Proposal: Interstellar Trade Alliance

An alliance allowing free unrestricted trade for all parties interested. Includes the formation of an ITA council made up of trade ministers/secretaries from all member nations that can vote on any issues that need to be addressed.

Current Signatories:

Minmatar
UPK
Monacoran Empire

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-04-27 04:57pm

I'll sign, but only with the understanding that heavily armed ships are expressly forbidden, and that the UPK retains the sole right to provide military escort to any and all convoys within its borders.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-27 05:02pm

Spyder wrote:Proposal: Interstellar Trade Alliance

An alliance allowing free unrestricted trade for all parties interested. Includes the formation of an ITA council made up of trade ministers/secretaries from all member nations that can vote on any issues that need to be addressed.

Current Signatories:

Minmatar

Just made the [STGOD] UNited Nations thing for this kinda stuff, but as a anoucement I would be willing to sign, as long as I am promised that no efforsts will be put into locating my far point system. And al trade to the Far Point system is brought in under my protection of Convoys, with all nav computers turned off.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 05:08pm

Yo, I hate to be rude, but can I join at this stage?

Because I'm late, I'll purposely NOT make myself a major power or anything...I was thinking more along the lines of an independent mercenary force with just one or two systems under control.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-27 05:14pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I'll sign, but only with the understanding that heavily armed ships are expressly forbidden, and that the UPK retains the sole right to provide military escort to any and all convoys within its borders.

I don't see why not, who escorts who, when, where, ect is something we can vote on in future.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-04-27 05:16pm

Straha wrote:
Just made the [STGOD] UNited Nations thing for this kinda stuff, but as a anoucement I would be willing to sign, as long as I am promised that no efforsts will be put into locating my far point system. And al trade to the Far Point system is brought in under my protection of Convoys, with all nav computers turned off.

If you like you can propose a Privacy Act using an [STGOD-ITA] thread. With the united nations and ITA, we're probably going to wind up with a bit of beurocracy going on which is fine by me, adds to the flavor.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-27 05:46pm

Badme wrote:Yo, I hate to be rude, but can I join at this stage?

Because I'm late, I'll purposely NOT make myself a major power or anything...I was thinking more along the lines of an independent mercenary force with just one or two systems under control.

Yes. Make it one if your going to be minor, since two or three systems is a major power.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-04-27 06:28pm

Badme wrote:Yo, I hate to be rude, but can I join at this stage?

Because I'm late, I'll purposely NOT make myself a major power or anything...I was thinking more along the lines of an independent mercenary force with just one or two systems under control.

We haven't actually started yet, so I don't see you as being late.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 06:56pm

Ok, then, one system it is. Here's a really, really rough, preliminary sketch of my people:

The Kelia Alliance

Although the name harkens back to a legend of a powerful, independent, extremely belligerent faction, the Kelia Alliance is nothing more than a collection of allied mercenary groups. The Kelia Alliance call themselves ancestors of the Stricken, mutinous rebels who abandoned Earth some time ago, however this is probably nothing more than hyperbole. The Kelia Alliance are well-known as privateers- often hired by major powers to conduct soem sort of raid on a rival without the expense, reputation, and hostilities that emerge fom active involvement. As such, the Kelia Alliance's ships are generally small and fast, with little power behind them.

The Kelia Alliance's territorial holdings consist only of the Kelia system, a tiny system containing only 5 planets, 3 of which are uninhabitable but are used for mining and resource purposes. The Kelia Alliance generally does not take sides in a major conflict, although there have been reports of ships from the Kelia Alliance hired by both sides in drawn-out conflicts.

The Kelia Alliance's Earth land holdings consists of several islands in the South Pacific.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: spelling
EDIT: Durr, forgot the islands bit...

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 07:02pm

Sol system recognized as 'international zone' with freedom of passage for all Earth-based states.

Pablo, I hope you include the Floater Republic of Zarathrustra as an "Earth Based State." The Cluster is at Earth's L5 point, and there is a second laerge cluste in Earth's Oort cloud of comets, as well as a few small mining stations and small clusters throughout the Sol system.

By the way, the floater's "Peace of the Void" allows any vessel, flying any flag, to dock with and trade with any floater Cluster, orbital, or habitat- Even military Clusters, though vessels approaching military clusters will be searched and watched carefully. The only exception is the Womb, which no Heavy has ever set foot on.

Floater warships can be expected to hunt down and brutally kill anyone who destroys civilian shipping in any system in which floater forces reside. This includes freelancer pirates, or warships from a sovereign nation. Registered combatants, flying their nation's flag, fighting each other, will be left to their own devices.

Though the code of the "Peace of the Void" does not require it, Floater vessels, both military and civilian, will often go out of their way to assist damaged vessels issuing maydays.

The Floater system of Mohaim, which has no Heavy presence, is completely free and open. Anyone who wishes to colonize the worlds of the Mohaim sustem may. Any vessels may pass, with no fear of reprisal.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 07:11pm

The Kelia Alliance humbly requests to set up several resource mining bases in said Floater system.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 07:24pm

The Kelia Alliance humbly requests to set up several resource mining bases in said Floater system.

You don't need to request. The system which contains the Mohaim Cluster doesn't belong to Mohaimese Freehold. The two habited planets in the system are empty. We will take no action against anyone who enters the system, for any reason. Or course, those who murder floaters, or violate the "Peace of the Void," will face the ire of all Floater republics.

So, feel free to set up mining stations!

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-27 07:44pm

Badme wrote:The Kelia Alliance humbly requests to set up several resource mining bases in said Floater system.

Hmm, inhabitable planets.

The Monacoran Nation offers its services of defensive battle-stations for protection of the planets, in return for you allowing us to set up colonies on the planet, and leaving them be.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 07:49pm

An excellent idea. The floaters of the system would be glad to assist your colonists in any ways, and we hope that trade between the Monacoran colonies, the Kelian mining stations, and the Mohaimese Freehold can flourish.

The Mohaimese Navy will provide protection to the fledgeling colonies until the battlestations are complete.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 07:50pm

The Kelia Alliance accepts such a proposal, but would first like to sign a general non-agression treaty with The Monacoran Nation.

Note that the mining stations are not COMPLETELY defenseless...just nearly so

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-27 07:53pm

An NAP would be more then accepted, and the Floaters defense offer is also accepted, prehaps this could bridge the way to an exchange of technology.

As an interesting side note, why don't we put the UP on this planet? THat would be more then out of the way, it would be perfectly neutral, and it would be just getting developed.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 07:57pm

I like the plan.

The Mohaim system would be an excellent location for the UP headquarters.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 08:01pm

Straha wrote:An NAP would be more then accepted, and the Floaters defense offer is also accepted, prehaps this could bridge the way to an exchange of technology.

As an interesting side note, why don't we put the UP on this planet? THat would be more then out of the way, it would be perfectly neutral, and it would be just getting developed.

The Kelia Alliance is ambivalent to location of UP, but would would wish to not draw more belligerent powers into this location.

The Kelia Alliance accepts the offer of protection from the most magnanmius Floaters, and wishes to sign an non-agression treaty with the Floaters as well.

Technology trasnfer is impossible at the moment, due to the Kelia Alliance's owner having no idea what the hell technology they use

In time, this would certainly by advantageous to all involved.

On the topic of trade, the Kelia Alliance reports a surplus of steel in reserves. Would the worthy The Monacoran Nation be in such a market?

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-27 08:12pm

Thirdfain wrote:Pablo, I hope you include the Floater Republic of Zarathrustra as an "Earth Based State." The Cluster is at Earth's L5 point, and there is a second laerge cluste in Earth's Oort cloud of comets, as well as a few small mining stations and small clusters throughout the Sol system.

Earth-based may have been a misnomer. The PSR considers all humans, as well as other peoples with possessions within the Sol system to be 'Earth-based.'

EDIT:
A little note about the PSR--it's an aggressively democratic nation. Any state which is totalitarian will automatically have poor relations with them, as will most any state which preserves the trappings of monarchy (to a lesser extent). For example, the PSR will be quite friendly with Phong's NAU, or the Floater Republic, but it will have quite poor relations with the Talorans. The Monacorans, with a constitutional monarchy, would occupy a middle ground.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 08:19pm

Earth-based may have been a misnomer. The PSR considers all humans, as well as other peoples with possessions within the Sol system to be 'Earth-based.'

EDIT:
A little note about the PSR--it's an aggressively democratic nation. Any state which is totalitarian will automatically have poor relations with them, as will most any state which preserves the trappings of monarchy (to a lesser extent). For example, the PSR will be quite friendly with Phong's NAU, or the Floater Republic, but it will have quite poor relations with the Talorans. The Monacorans, with a constitutional monarchy, would occupy a middle ground.

Excellent! I am sure that the Floater Republics will be able to share peaceful relations with the PSR, especially considering that one of the larger clusters, Xanadu, is located at the L5 point of one of the inhospitable planets of the PSR's Taiga system.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-04-27 08:20pm

Please note that the Kelia Alliance is an Earth-based power (several islands).

Oh, and yes, I forgot to mention government in the Kelia Alliance. Let me get the final plan worked out...however, it will be democratic. May both of our nations continue to grow, Pablo.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-27 08:28pm

Thirdfain wrote:Excellent! I am sure that the Floater Republics will be able to share peaceful relations with the PSR, especially considering that one of the larger clusters, Xanadu, is located at the L5 point of one of the inhospitable planets of the PSR's Taiga system.

The Pan-Slavic Republic would like to negotiate a plan concerning mineral exploitation and military operations in the Taiga system. As we are both legal occupants of said system, it can justly be said that the resources belong to neither. It is also obvious that an agreement to reduce military tension, and possibly even to allow for joint defense of the system would be a worthy effort.