[STGOD] Preliminary Force Declarations & Rules

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The Pan-Slavic Republic would like to negotiate a plan concerning mineral exploitation and military operations in the Taiga system. As we are both legal occupants of said system, it can justly be said that the resources belong to neither. It is also obvious that an agreement to reduce military tension, and possibly even to allow for joint defense of the system would be a worthy effort.
The Xanadar Navy and the assorted Free Militias will act to defend the people of the Taiga system, both Floater and Heavy. A floater naval officer would rather shoot himself than the mining colonists of the Taiga system. Unless we make any long term agreements, Xanadar units will confine their efforts to the Taiga system, but you have the assurances of all four of the Free Floater Republics- Xanadu will fight to defend those it shares the Taiga system with.

As for mining rights, the Republic of Xanadu needs to harvest comets from the Taiga system's Oort cloud for it's survival. Otherwise, we would like to reserve the rights to, say, 1/3rd of the mineral wealth of the system's asteroids, and 1/2 of the wealth of any rings planets in the Taiga system have. Any objecitons?
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Thirdfain wrote:As for mining rights, the Republic of Xanadu needs to harvest comets from the Taiga system's Oort cloud for it's survival. Otherwise, we would like to reserve the rights to, say, 1/3rd of the mineral wealth of the system's asteroids, and 1/2 of the wealth of any rings planets in the Taiga system have. Any objecitons?
None. The Republican Navy stationed in Taiga also agrees to act in the defense of the people of Xanadar as agressively as if they were citizens.
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The Asgard Empire would like to negotiate free trade and mutal defense treaties with any interested powers. We've got plenty of agricultural products and rare heavy metal in abundance. In return we're looking for consumer goods.


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Excellent! It is a pleasure, Pablo! may the Peace of the Void be with you.

On a similar note, the Floater Republic of Kharam is in the Alpha Centauri system, a sytem which contains worlds colonized and developed by the North American Union. The Void Mother Church of Kharam offers the same deal to the NAU, with one major difference- The Womb, a major center of the Floater culture and religeon, is in the Alpha Centauri system. It, and the Kharamite cluster which surrounds it, must never be approached by Heavy vessels of any sort. An area of 1 AU around the Womb is off limits to all Heavy warships and shipping, due to religeous reasons. Only vessels in dire need of assistance may enter this area, and even then will be given only the necessary repairs and then sent on their way.

Trade stations throughout the system will still be accessible to all.


So, Phongn, what do you say?
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The Kelia Alliance, seeking defense , wishes to enter a mutual protection treaty with the Asgard Empire.

The Kelia Alliance appears to be in much the same situation with regards to trade and availabe goods, unfortunately. On the other hand, I'm sure some of our lovely Vibro-cleaners may appeal to the local housewives.
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Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard Empire would like to negotiate free trade and mutal defense treaties with any interested powers. We've got plenty of agricultural products and rare heavy metal in abundance. In return we're looking for consumer goods.

The Kokand Empire is highly interested in such an agreement.
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The Asgard Empire would like to negotiate free trade and mutal defense treaties with any interested powers. We've got plenty of agricultural products and rare heavy metal in abundance. In return we're looking for consumer goods.


And immigrants are always welcome.
While the Great Cluster agrees that we do not know your intentions or character well enough to join a mutual defense treaty, Floater traders are always willing to disseminate the pharmaceuticals, both recreational and otherwise, for which the Floaters are famous.

By the way, the Floater republic of Kharam is currently looking for a powerful energy shield capable of giving an immobile object 15 kilometers long and 12 kilometers wide extremely potent protection. In exchange, the Kharamite Void Mother Church will provide full military support- the Templar fleet of 60 strike cruisers, 8 attack carriers, 8 dreadnoughts, and countless lancers and fighters- to any military actions for five years following the installation of the shield generator.
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Badme wrote:The Kelia Alliance, seeking defense , wishes to enter a mutual protection treaty with the Asgard Empire.

The Kelia Alliance appears to be in much the same situation with regards to trade and availabe goods, unfortunately. On the other hand, I'm sure some of our lovely Vibro-cleaners may appeal to the local housewives.
The Asgard Empire would first request an order of battle for the Kelia Alliance before committing ourself to military defense treaties.

We are interested in pursuing trade treaties though.
Sea Skimmer wrote:The Kokand Empire is highly interested in such an agreement.
What terms would you propose?
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard Empire would like to negotiate free trade and mutal defense treaties with any interested powers. We've got plenty of agricultural products and rare heavy metal in abundance. In return we're looking for consumer goods.

The Kokand Empire is highly interested in such an agreement.
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Thirdfain wrote:While the Great Cluster agrees that we do not know your intentions or character well enough to join a mutual defense treaty, Floater traders are always willing to disseminate the pharmaceuticals, both recreational and otherwise, for which the Floaters are famous.
We are not interested in recreational drugs, the theraputic drugs on the other hand would be most welcome. Our outter colonies in particular need advanced medicinals.
Thirdfain wrote:By the way, the Floater republic of Kharam is currently looking for a powerful energy shield capable of giving an immobile object 15 kilometers long and 12 kilometers wide extremely potent protection. In exchange, the Kharamite Void Mother Church will provide full military support- the Templar fleet of 60 strike cruisers, 8 attack carriers, 8 dreadnoughts, and countless lancers and fighters- to any military actions for five years following the installation of the shield generator.
We would offer such a sheild, in the form of spherical sidewalls bubbles, for you. However we would like a mutual defense treaty for so long as such equipment is in place, immediate support for two years only.
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The Kelia Alliance understands, and will post an order of battle sometime tommorrow.

Our ships are mainly designed for hit and run raids, and as such are not very powerful, but are quite fast.

The appeal of an trade treaty is seconded. Would the hnoorable Empire give the Kelia Alliance the draft for such a treaty?
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Beowulf wrote:As is the OU.
Please file your preliminary proposal with the nearest Asgard Embassy.
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What terms would you propose?
The Asgard Empire and The Kokand Empire enter into mutual defence pact. Both Empires will come to the others aid in the event of an outside attack. To facilitate close operations between our respectively fleets communications equipment would be standardized on at least a limited scale, forces would engage in periodic joint exercises and escort each others commerce jointly as required by piracy actions. A joint basing argument within each others territory could be worked out separately if it is desired.

On trade, both powers will permit unrestricted free trade.In addition each star nation would grant most favored nation status to the other. Any trading concessions granted to other nations will also then be granted to the Kokand Empire and the other way around.

Our growing population has a considerable demand for foodstuffs and our heavy industry consumes metals at an incredible rate. However our lighter consumer industries are capable of operating at levels unnecessary for our own needs.
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Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard Empire would like to negotiate free trade and mutal defense treaties with any interested powers. We've got plenty of agricultural products and rare heavy metal in abundance. In return we're looking for consumer goods.


And immigrants are always welcome.
How about a trade of planetary shields, in exchange for, a battle station in one year (two are almost finished, but they are being re-directed) and 40 orbital smelting facilities, only slightly used (half a year).
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We are not interested in recreational drugs, the theraputic drugs on the other hand would be most welcome. Our outter colonies in particular need advanced medicinals.
But of course. The Unbound understand that many heavies find recreational pharmaceuticals distasteful. In exchange for the rights to pull comets from your system's Oort clouds for rendering into basic foodstuffs, reactor fuel, oxygen, and water, our traders will transport a variety of useful life-extending pharmaceuticals, painkillers, and virus-and disease fighters.
We would offer such a sheild, in the form of spherical sidewalls bubbles, for you. However we would like a mutual defense treaty for so long as such equipment is in place, immediate support for two years only.
Agreed!

keep in mind that this treaty is with the Free Republic of Kharam and it's Mother Void Church Templars, not with the Floater Republics as a whole. Furthur proof of the Asgard Empire's bona fides will be necessary before a complete military alliance between all Floaters and the ASgard Empire can be formed.
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Thirdfain wrote:
While the Great Cluster agrees that we do not know your intentions or character well enough to join a mutual defense treaty, Floater traders are always willing to disseminate the pharmaceuticals, both recreational and otherwise, for which the Floaters are famous.
Or infamous, depending upon the star nation involved. The Kokand Empire would look poorly on the transshipment or dealing of such recreational within its territory. Though it also acknowledges that many drugs are dual use. It expects that such will be well secured.
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The New Roman Empire is interested in signing a mutual defense pact with any interested nation.
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HemlockGrey wrote:The New Roman Empire is interested in signing a mutual defense pact with any interested nation.
::Hops in his car, and drives over to Italy::

More then willing over here.
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But of course. The Unbound understand that many heavies find recreational pharmaceuticals distasteful. In exchange for the rights to pull comets from your system's Oort clouds for rendering into basic foodstuffs, reactor fuel, oxygen, and water, our traders will transport a variety of useful life-extending pharmaceuticals, painkillers, and virus-and disease fighters.
It is agreed. We suggest that you take care to keep such recreational drugs from being smuggled in as we would consider that a serious breach of our agreement.
Agreed!

keep in mind that this treaty is with the Free Republic of Kharam and it's Mother Void Church Templars, not with the Floater Republics as a whole. Furthur proof of the Asgard Empire's bona fides will be necessary before a complete military alliance between all Floaters and the ASgard Empire can be formed.
So long as the Kharam Republic would be willing to take up arms against their fellow floaters should they attack the Asgard, we have a deal.

We will be sending a mobile construction ships and an escort force of one battle cruiser and four heavy cruisers to begin installing the sheilds as soon as the treaty is ratified.
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The New Roman Empire is interested in signing a mutual defense pact with any interested nation.
The New Roman Empire's antilife oligarchy seems to many Floaters to be regressive and dangerous to civilized society. Until the New Roman Empire lifts trade restrictions, It can live with recieving only those few Floater traders willing to live with such sanctions.

Never the less, the New Roman Empire has yet to appear TOO opressive, and the Great Cluster will withhold judgement until more is learned.
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The Kelia Alliance would like to put forward a draft of a trade agreement with
the Asgard Empire.

Henceforth, free trade will pursist under this agreement.
Henceforth, the Kelia Alliance agrees to ship a large share of its limited supply of consumer goods to the Asgard Empire in return for metals (preferably metals strong and rare than steel) which are rare in Kelia's space.
Sincerely, the Undersigned


Note: In addition, the Kelia Alliance would like to inqure about the availability of higher-tech items (such as weapons, starships, and advanced computers).
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Sea Skimmer wrote:The Asgard Empire and The Kokand Empire enter into mutual defence pact. Both Empires will come to the others aid in the event of an outside attack. To facilitate close operations between our respectively fleets communications equipment would be standardized on at least a limited scale, forces would engage in periodic joint exercises and escort each others commerce jointly as required by piracy actions. A joint basing argument within each others territory could be worked out separately if it is desired.

On trade, both powers will permit unrestricted free trade.In addition each star nation would grant most favored nation status to the other. Any trading concessions granted to other nations will also then be granted to the Kokand Empire and the other way around.

Our growing population has a considerable demand for foodstuffs and our heavy industry consumes metals at an incredible rate. However our lighter consumer industries are capable of operating at levels unnecessary for our own needs.
Such an agreement is acceptable to us. We will begin sending food convoys to your capital planet from our outer colonies.

As for basing we other to allow bases on Hugnin, Loki, and Stockholm. We request a moon or other suitable pnaetary body in your capital system and two other systems strategically placed for rapid reaction. The only proviso being that WMDs be kept out of our capital system entirely or at least temporarily disarmed.
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::Hops in his car, and drives over to Italy::

More then willing over here.
The caesar is willing to sign a defensive pact with the Monacoron Empire under the following conditions:

1) Breaking the alliance is grounds for war
2) Complete military access granted to all signitories
3) Complete unrestricted trade between signitories
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Badme wrote:
Note: In addition, the Kelia Alliance would like to inqure about the availability of higher-tech items (such as weapons, starships, and advanced computers).
The Kokand Empire may be able to assist you if its military hardware you wish to obtain.
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Badme wrote:The Kelia Alliance would like to put forward a draft of a trade agreement with
the Asgard Empire.

Henceforth, free trade will pursist under this agreement.
Henceforth, the Kelia Alliance agrees to ship a large share of its limited supply of consumer goods to the Asgard Empire in return for metals (preferably metals strong and rare than steel) which are rare in Kelia's space.
Sincerely, the Undersigned
Since you are requesting refined metals rather than raw material we would like to stipulate that the value of trade will be kept in commensirate rate of exchange or or the difference be paid for be the Kelia Alliance government. In return we will provide industrial grade durasteels and artifical *-plast products. Military grade will not be exported.

This will last for five years until it must then be re-ratified.
Badme wrote:Note: In addition, the Kelia Alliance would like to inqure about the availability of higher-tech items (such as weapons, starships, and advanced computers).
We are not of the policy of exporting weapons technology. We will export reaction drive starship but impeller vessels are a no go. Advanced computers are currently up for review on case by case basis.
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