That's It I quit!

[Faram]

I am leaving the State religion here in Sweden (protestantism) and saving myself the cash that the church is getting through tax from me.

No more fence sitting I'm out and I am not going back in.

Filled out printed and mailed the form 30min ago!

[Frank Hipper]

I applaud your good sense!
People can talk shit on the U.S. until they're blue in the face, but at least we don't tolerate that kind of nonsense! State religion! Bleccchhh!

[kojikun]

God doesn't need your money, he made the fucking universe.

[Colonel Olrik]

I am leaving the State religion here in Sweden (protestantism) and saving myself the cash that the church is getting through tax from me.

No more fence sitting I'm out and I am not going back in.

Filled out printed and mailed the form 30min ago!

State religion? Why do you need a stinking state religion?

That's new for me. You swedes are weird.

Half the country would set loose the dogs of war if a measure like that was to be instituted here. At least, I hope so.The center-left parties would be deeply displeased.

[Raptor 597]

Thats what me, leading the Greater Reich annexed them. But good Faram you can know worship God while sitting on the craper.

[Alyrium Denryle]

They do the same thing in Germany...Though the tax is ot mandatory. It is basically your religious tithe...but instead of putting it in the collection plate, as a member of a protestant or catholic church, it comes out of your paycheck and goes to your church.

[BlkbrryTheGreat]

If a state relgion were to be p roposted in the United States then the rabid religious groups of this country would rear themselves apart in an orgy of violence and destruction in an attempt to insure that their religion was selected.

Now that I think of i t lets propost a state religion....

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

If a state relgion were to be p roposted in the United States then the rabid religious groups of this country would rear themselves apart in an orgy of violence and destruction in an attempt to insure that their religion was selected.

Now that I think of i t lets propost a state religion....

Seconded!

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

Instead of making you pay a tax, churches in America beg for your money in the sermons, or at least that's what the church I go to does.

[Tsyroc]

Instead of making you pay a tax, churches in America beg for your money in the sermons, or at least that's what the church I go to does.

In otherwords they guilt trip you. There in front of the rest of the congregation they pass the plate in such a way that at least some people see whether you put something in or not. In some churches they give you envelopes to put the cash/cheque in but you still have people noticing (in theory) if you do or don't put something in.

The last I heard, in Christian churches you are supposed to pay 10% of your yearly income to the church. Kind of steep wouldn't you say?

Now the little I know about the synagogues around here they tell the members how much they should be donating after looking at how much each person/family makes. The whole payment thing is private though.

[Morat]

In otherwords they guilt trip you. There in front of the rest of the congregation they pass the plate in such a way that at least some people see whether you put something in or not. In some churches they give you envelopes to put the cash/cheque in but you still have people noticing (in theory) if you do or don't put something in.

You could always put an empty envelope in.

[HemlockGrey]

My church passes around a collection plate and you can deposit whatever you want. The minister has never preached about giving money during his sermons.

Of course, my church actually does need the money to just stay operational, so it's not like the minister or the Session is glutting the congregation for their own benefit.

[Admiral Johnason]

I haven't been to Church in 6 months. I relly just prefer to stick to my own personal beliefs and not argue with others. I am not refering to the preacher.

I may find another church soon, but I find this confortable.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

In otherwords they guilt trip you. There in front of the rest of the congregation they pass the plate in such a way that at least some people see whether you put something in or not. In some churches they give you envelopes to put the cash/cheque in but you still have people noticing (in theory) if you do or don't put something in.

You could always put an empty envelope in.

Or if you're a real bastard, and good at sleight-of-hand, have an extra envelope and play a little "shell game" with them... nah, that's just assholery. Forget I said that.

[Eleas]

I am leaving the State religion here in Sweden (protestantism) and saving myself the cash that the church is getting through tax from me.

No more fence sitting I'm out and I am not going back in.

Filled out printed and mailed the form 30min ago!

Men Sverige är ju en kristen stat! Hedning! *organiserar ett lynchtåg*

[Eleas]

State religion? Why do you need a stinking state religion?

That's new for me. You swedes are weird.

Half the country would set loose the dogs of war if a measure like that was to be instituted here. At least, I hope so.The center-left parties would be deeply displeased.

Sweden was christianized before there was a united Sweden. Back then there were no parties at all, so the populace couldn't very well complain. They'd have been hung, drawn and skullfucked if they did.

[His Divine Shadow]

Men Sverige är ju en kristen stat! Hedning! *organiserar ett lynchtåg*

Äh, det enda som finns kvar av sånt skojeri är ett par stycken gamla halvdöda fundisar och några hjärntvättade ungdomar.

[Eleas]

Men Sverige är ju en kristen stat! Hedning! *organiserar ett lynchtåg*

Äh, det enda som finns kvar av sånt skojeri är ett par stycken gamla halvdöda fundisar och några hjärntvättade ungdomar.

...trodde jag, tills dess att min skola bjöd in en präst som försökte tvinga oss att tacka Gud för att vi skulle få en så trevlig sommar...

[His Divine Shadow]

Thank the lord!

[Eleas]

Thank the lord!

*rectally violates HDS with a crate of fire ants*

[His Divine Shadow]

Thank the lord!

*rectally violates HDS with a crate of fire ants*

Ahaha, it's just a forum silly!

[Faram]

...trodde jag, tills dess att min skola bjöd in en präst som försökte tvinga oss att tacka Gud för att vi skulle få en så trevlig sommar...

Men va faan...

Var? när? hur?

[Eleas]

...trodde jag, tills dess att min skola bjöd in en präst som försökte tvinga oss att tacka Gud för att vi skulle få en så trevlig sommar...

Men va faan...

Var? när? hur?

Skrev det som inlägg här långt tidigare... det verkar har utgått.

Anyway, jag tror att det var i femman-sexan, precis före sommarlovet. Vi är rätt glada och förväntansfulla. Och så stiger den här (kvinnliga) prästen upp på podiet och ska sjunga några jävla psalmer. Okej, det tål vi väl, tänkte jag.

Sen var det dags för slutklämmen. Då kom det. "Okej ungar, nu ska vi tacka Gud för att vi ska få ett så trevligt sommarlov."

Notera att prästjäveln ber mig att tacka en påhittad gestalt för nåt som inte ens har inträffat. Fy fan. Och det värsta var att alla andra, med oroliga blickar på varandra, reciterade hennes äckliga manifesto. Man vill ju inte vara utanför, det är det värsta som finns för ett barn i den åldern.

Och efter det förstod jag koncept som "indoktrinering", "fundamentalist" och "hjärntvätt" bra mycket bättre.

[Faram]

Skrev det som inlägg här långt tidigare... det verkar har utgått.

Anyway, jag tror att det var i femman-sexan, precis före sommarlovet. Vi är rätt glada och förväntansfulla. Och så stiger den här (kvinnliga) prästen upp på podiet och ska sjunga några jävla psalmer. Okej, det tål vi väl, tänkte jag.

Sen var det dags för slutklämmen. Då kom det. "Okej ungar, nu ska vi tacka Gud för att vi ska få ett så trevligt sommarlov."

Notera att prästjäveln ber mig att tacka en påhittad gestalt för nåt som inte ens har inträffat. Fy fan. Och det värsta var att alla andra, med oroliga blickar på varandra, reciterade hennes äckliga manifesto. Man vill ju inte vara utanför, det är det värsta som finns för ett barn i den åldern.

Och efter det förstod jag koncept som "indoktrinering", "fundamentalist" och "hjärntvätt" bra mycket bättre.

Blah same thing happen when I where in elemntary(sp?) shool.

Go to church sing som palms and thank the lord that I am getting a summer break.

Back then I where to insecure and stuff so I just bowed my head and did the same as all the other children.

I do think my general dislake for religion came when I where in 7th or 8ht grade.

Fuddie priest came and said that everyone should get a confirmation(sp?) and stuff.

My parent's did't care one way or an other but my grandparents made a big deal out of it so I whent ahead and did the confirmation thingy.

Those weeks of late shool and the weekend where a big guilt trip, I did start the followers of Job just for kicks.

The priest got somwhat upset when I got 4 or 5 other kids to join.

Best thing about the weekend trip was the girls. 20 boys and girls minimal supervision and loads of spare time

[Eleas]

Blah same thing happen when I where in elemntary(sp?) shool.

Go to church sing som palms and thank the lord that I am getting a summer break.

Back then I where to insecure and stuff so I just bowed my head and did the same as all the other children.

Well I'm bothered by the fact that this is allowed even if you are not. I may be small-minded, but I hate being forced to do something. And seeing as how I was already pretty low on the school's totem pole, I was definitely being forced.