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Do you enjoy NJO? I have found it to be largely a love/hate deal. You either love it, or you hate it, and I have yet to see much of a middle ground.
Yeah, I like it alot. There are some truly mediocre books, some OK ones, and some outstanding ones, but overall I've really liked the series.
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I've only read the Stackpole and Allston books. Rather enjoyed them to.
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I'm sick and tired of post-OT EU. Kill it now, please.
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I haven't read any of the books, but from what I've read about what occurs in the series, it just keeps getting more and more depressing and unrecoverable.
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I like it. Nothing up to Star By Star is worth reading. But most of the rest is quite good.
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Star By Star 10/10, Traitor 9/10, Enemy Lines duology 9/10, Destiny's Way 8/10, Remnant 9/10. There are many excellent books in NJO, but there are some extremely awfull books too.
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Things have been looking up since the Allston duology.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I haven't read any of the books, but from what I've read about what occurs in the series, it just keeps getting more and more depressing and unrecoverable.
BoTM / JL / MM / HAB / VRWC / Horseman
I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
Will do. It doesn't look there will be much left to do in the post-OT EU after the NJO finishes, which is perhaps why the emphasis seems to be shifting more to pre-OT EU novels.Vympel wrote:I'm sick and tired of post-OT EU. Kill it now, please.
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Despite minimalism (always present in the EU, always will be), many of the series are quite excellent. Although us SW Tech nerds would love to see million ship fleets pounding on each other, if the story is written well eight ships is fine with me. More specifically, read nothing up to Star by Star, then skip Dark Journey, then read everything after that.
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How on Earth could youenjoythe pre-SBS NJO? It was utter crap; each and every book worse than the last (okay maybe not, but it was still bad). Even though we lost a very well-developed character in SBS, I think it is the best NJO book out there. Excluding Dark Journey, the ones following SBS are too.Darth Balls wrote:I lost interest because of what happened to a certain character in Star By Star. Too bad, I was really enjoying the series up till then.
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The duology that had centerpoint (the name escapes me atm) was kinda lame, and I didnt really like Balance Point either, but everything else was cool. Also, I didnt say I hated SBS, on the contrary I liked it quite a lot, but the death of a certain character in SBS turned me off to the series and I don't care to read further into it now. I've already made up my mind I'm through unless that character is brought back.
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I buy around ten good, five okay, and four bad SW EU books... only to find a few years later that everything I enjoyed about them is completely forgotten, and everything I loved about the books gone. Whoever thought of the NJO plot is a serious dumbass.
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You should avoid a few books in the series like the plague (Dark Journey, cough cough), but for the most part I think that they're pretty strong books, with SbS being by far the strongest.
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WARNING SPOILERS
I've not read any of them, but from the uber-organic shit to the warping of Coruscant (if you can even call it that anymore ), to the annihilation of Ithor, to the death of main characters I loved (some of them are in the goddamned OT for crying out loud), to the supposed shit action, to the lame-ass books, I hate it as it destroys everything I like about Star Wars. The Vong are basically anti-Star Wars shit. The Vong are everything I don’t want in Star Wars.
When I thought about Star Wars before the NJO, I thought of this:
http://www.stardestroyer.net/BigBanner-New.jpg
http://www.stardestroyer.net/toc.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ccw/48929_CN.jpg
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http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... t_main.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... part_1.jpg
Now, due to the NJO, when I think of Star Wars, I'm forced to think of this:
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http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... 620_41.jpg
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I've not read any of them, but from the uber-organic shit to the warping of Coruscant (if you can even call it that anymore ), to the annihilation of Ithor, to the death of main characters I loved (some of them are in the goddamned OT for crying out loud), to the supposed shit action, to the lame-ass books, I hate it as it destroys everything I like about Star Wars. The Vong are basically anti-Star Wars shit. The Vong are everything I don’t want in Star Wars.
When I thought about Star Wars before the NJO, I thought of this:
http://www.stardestroyer.net/BigBanner-New.jpg
http://www.stardestroyer.net/toc.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ccw/48929_CN.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ccw/48932_CN.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ccw/48358_CN.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... t_main.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... part_1.jpg
Now, due to the NJO, when I think of Star Wars, I'm forced to think of this:
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... 620_20.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... 620_41.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... 620_10.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/ ... 620_21.jpg
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Destiny's Way also had a massive fleet action with thousands of ships.Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:SPOILERS:
Stupid EU minimalist authors. In Destiny's Way, 8 ships destroyed was concidered a huge loss. In Remnant, there were less than 10 ISDs defending Bastion.
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I quit reading after the first book in NJO, whatever it was. Death of a certain well-loved character was not only blatantly avoidable in the plot, but wholly depressing. If I ever go back to the EU, it'll be to reread the original Zahn trilogy.
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