[STGOD] United Planets

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-27 11:05pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard would like to point out that there are cases where genocide may become a military necessity. What should be done in those cases?

Under what cases would genocide be a military necessity?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-27 11:06pm

The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.

In the unlikely event that some ravenous, destructive, mindless alien species attacks, and there appear to be no wayts to save civilization besides genocide, then it might become an option.

Otherwise, there is no reason to kill everyone on a planet.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-27 11:08pm

Thirdfain wrote:The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.

In the unlikely event that some ravenous, destructive, mindless alien species attacks, and there appear to be no wayts to save civilization besides genocide, then it might become an option.

Otherwise, there is no reason to kill everyone on a planet.

That is acceptable.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-04-28 04:58am

Stormbringer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.

In the unlikely event that some ravenous, destructive, mindless alien species attacks, and there appear to be no wayts to save civilization besides genocide, then it might become an option.

Otherwise, there is no reason to kill everyone on a planet.
That is acceptable.

Agreed.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-28 05:03am

Thirdfain wrote:The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.

The Kokand Empire would like to point out that humans are quite often not rational. The prevalence of many religious beliefs thought out known history is proof of this.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-04-28 05:13am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.
The Kokand Empire would like to point out that humans are quite often not rational. The prevalence of many religious beliefs thought out known history is proof of this.

The only thing that is irrational is to not believe in the Just Lord Farzbardor.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-28 06:54am

The caesar and the Senate take note of the Kokand's insult of the Orthocatholic Church.

Further, we agree to the treaty being proposed.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-28 07:11am

HemlockGrey wrote:The caesar and the Senate take note of the Kokand's insult of the Orthocatholic Church.

Further, we agree to the treaty being proposed.

The Kokand Empire will inform the New Roman Empire when it cares.

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:The only thing that is irrational is to not believe in the Just Lord Farzbardor.

Your people are free to believe and worship whatever they wish

FBHthelizardmage · Post by **FBHthelizardmage** » 2003-04-28 09:56am

the new Nation of Whats Left will sign the anti genocide treaty.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-28 09:59am

The Anti-genocide treaty is available in the "Terra Convention" thread.

sign up there!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-28 10:02am

SirNitram wrote: Under what cases would genocide be a military necessity?

Total War

FBHthelizardmage · Post by **FBHthelizardmage** » 2003-04-28 10:06am

the NNoWL would like to offer a non agression pact to anyone who wants one.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-28 04:24pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:The Floater Republics would like to reply that it is never a military necessity to commit genocide, at least not against rational humans.
The Kokand Empire would like to point out that humans are quite often not rational. The prevalence of many religious beliefs thought out known history is proof of this.

The athiests (with whom I am affiliated) in my parliment would like to thank you for showing that other nations have intelligence, whilst the radical religionists would like me to declare war on you right now.

We agree to sign onto the Anti-genocide bill, and would also like to propose that a definition of WMDs and WMBs are put up to further clarify this groups clause of enterence.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-04-28 04:47pm

TSCoTC proposes that the UP HQ be located in an extraterrestrial location. A deep space facitlity prehaps? We would be quite prepared to construct such a facility if no other star nation is prepared to.

We also petition for entry into the UP, on the condition that the following stipulation is drawn into it's charter:

The UP shall not exercise finincial control over it's signitory nations. Nor shall it demand over 0.001% of any star nation's GDP for it's maintanince.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-04-28 06:09pm

The Reynari Empire detests the murder of innocent civilians of all species, and unilaterally promises not to do so except in retaliation for such actions committed against us or our allies. That being said, we cannot sign any treaty that could subject the Matriarch to punishment at the hands of anyone.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-28 06:17pm

The Mohaim system, which is a free system in which three different powers have holdings, would be an excellent location for the UP headquarters. It is away from Earth, thus stopping the alienation of non-Terran nations, and is currently held by no single empire.

Anyone like the idea?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-04-28 06:21pm

Motion seconded

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-28 08:56pm

The Agard move that we place punitive tariffs on the NRE and pass a formal censure until they abolish slavery within their borders.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-28 08:59pm

The Agard move that we place punitive tariffs on the NRE and pass a formal censure until they abolish slavery within their borders.

The Free Floater Republics applaude the Asgard for their morality and dedication to freedom.

The Great Cluster has elected that, to furthur the cause of freedom, temporary tariffs on the NRE will act to bring much greater freedom in the long run than they will destroy in the short run.

Floater comet mining operations in the Oort clouds of NRE worlds will stop, and trade of recreational drugs with the NRE will also end.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-28 09:23pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Agard move that we place punitive tariffs on the NRE and pass a formal censure until they abolish slavery within their borders.

The PSR agrees. We have ordered all resource shipments to the NRE ceased, and Parliament is now instituting a 100% tariff on all goods from the New Roman Empire. We applaud the Asgard for their decisive and swift action.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-28 09:58pm

Though the Monacoran Nation applauds these movements for freedom of slaves, we cannot vote in this motion at this time for tangled political reasons.

Prehaps a more neutral motion can be passed, with inspectors sent to the NRE to make sure they are not mis-treating their slaves in any major or minor way.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-28 10:00pm

The Kokand Empire will be happy to buy any surplus lots of refined metals now being embargoed.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-04-28 10:18pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Agard move that we place punitive tariffs on the NRE and pass a formal censure until they abolish slavery within their borders.

Durandal's Empire agrees with such a measure, and curse the Asgard for thinking of it first. We do however applaude your sense of morality and dediction to humanoid rights.

We would also support military action should the need arise...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-28 10:28pm

Straha wrote:Though the Monacoran Nation applauds these movements for freedom of slaves, we cannot vote in this motion at this time for tangled political reasons.

Prehaps a more neutral motion can be passed, with inspectors sent to the NRE to make sure they are not mis-treating their slaves in any major or minor way.

We would never support such a measure as slavery is by definition mistreating a human being. There can be no compromise.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-28 10:33pm

Though the Monacoran Nation applauds these movements for freedom of slaves, we cannot vote in this motion at this time for tangled political reasons.

Prehaps a more neutral motion can be passed, with inspectors sent to the NRE to make sure they are not mis-treating their slaves in any major or minor way

Bondman Ambassador DeJericho, representative of the Free Floater Republics, would like to ask what tangled politics forbid the Monacoran Nation from taking a stance against slavery, and what assistance the Floater Republics can offer to the Monacoran Nation to help end these political tangles