[DTGOD] To the Democratic Nations

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-28 10:11pm

Yes, that's fine. My nation will be leery of you until circumstances prove you trustworthy, however, because we had basically the same arrangement immediately before we became a full republic. Then the Czar decided he wanted to sieze power.

for what it is worth, the Monacoran Empire has shown itself to be moral and generally friendly in pst dealings with the Free Floater Republics. Freemen/Bondmen/Lovebound of all of the Floater Republics, and Mohaim in particular, look forwards to working alongside the Monacoran Empire in the future.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-04-29 12:41am

Thirdfain wrote:
Yes, that's fine. My nation will be leery of you until circumstances prove you trustworthy, however, because we had basically the same arrangement immediately before we became a full republic. Then the Czar decided he wanted to sieze power.
for what it is worth, the Monacoran Empire has shown itself to be moral and generally friendly in pst dealings with the Free Floater Republics. Freemen/Bondmen/Lovebound of all of the Floater Republics, and Mohaim in particular, look forwards to working alongside the Monacoran Empire in the future.

Her Serene Majesty's Government cordially invites the Monacoran Empire, which has stinted by the plebes, to join with the Taloran Nation in upholding the rights of Sovereigns and the interests of Monarcharial government, which through long tradition and constancy has the clear advantage of the ages. We would hence propose an "Imperial League" for the interested Imperial Dynastic powers, to first consist of the Sovereigns of our nations and later to be expanded as interest and propiety allows.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-04-29 01:58am

[Kosh]...No...[/Kosh]

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-04-29 06:52am

Her Serene Majesty's Government cordially invites the Monacoran Empire, which has stinted by the plebes, to join with the Taloran Nation in upholding the rights of Sovereigns and the interests of Monarcharial government, which through long tradition and constancy has the clear advantage of the ages. We would hence propose an "Imperial League" for the interested Imperial Dynastic powers, to first consist of the Sovereigns of our nations and later to be expanded as interest and propiety allows.

The New Roman Empire supports the creation of such a league.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-04-29 10:04am

The KSE wishes to join your league of democratic star nations

We currently have an emperor who is elected by the people and shares power with the senate

ps. we also need terraforming technology to colonize a pair of planets on the edge of our space any help is aprecciated

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-29 10:06am

I am sure you will admitted to this august assembly.

ps. we also need terraforming technology to colonize a pair of planets on the edge of our space any help is aprecciated

If you need it, Floater scientests will provide genemodding technology which will allow your colonists to modfiy themselves to survive in any environment.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-04-29 10:13am

Thirdfain wrote:I am sure you will admitted to this august assembly.
If you need it, Floater scientests will provide genemodding technology which will allow your colonists to modfiy themselves to survive in any environment.

I'm not sure the colonists would like to be "Modified" but we will purchase the technology for research purposes. What is your price???

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-29 10:16am

I'm not sure the colonists would like to be "Modified" but we will purchase the technology for research purposes. What is your price???

Due to the fact that Floater genemodification technology could be put to use to create, say, extemely selective and potent bio-weapons, we will not give the technology to anyone. We will give the services of our genemod artists to those who would like it, though.

Do not take this as an insult- Floaters will not share the secrets of genemodification even with their closest allies.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-04-29 10:32am

Our scientists are currently working on similar technologies...to be used in curing genetic defects, and to allow us to colonize worlds that even our terraforming tech would not permit. Would you be willing to help us in this endevor? We will perfect it eventually, but this will benifit you as well.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-04-29 10:51am

Thirdfain wrote:
I'm not sure the colonists would like to be "Modified" but we will purchase the technology for research purposes. What is your price???
Due to the fact that Floater genemodification technology could be put to use to create, say, extemely selective and potent bio-weapons, we will not give the technology to anyone. We will give the services of our genemod artists to those who would like it, though.

Do not take this as an insult- Floaters will not share the secrets of genemodification even with their closest allies.

The colonists have agreed to be genemodded. What is your asking price for the modifications that are nessicary to survive in an extremly hostile environment???

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-29 11:39am

The colonists have agreed to be genemodded. What is your asking price for the modifications that are nessicary to survive in an extremly hostile environment???

Many floaters believe that it is humanities destiny to one day fill every ecological nitche in the universe. This being the case, we offer genetic modification to those who wish it at low cost. In addition, we will modify plantys and animals to grow on even the most hostile worlds, to help out colonization efforts. All we ask are rights to mine the Oort comet clouds of the systems in which your colonists will be living. Comet mining is necessary to make air, water, and reactor fuel for Floater clusters.

Our scientists are currently working on similar technologies...to be used in curing genetic defects, and to allow us to colonize worlds that even our terraforming tech would not permit. Would you be willing to help us in this endevor? We will perfect it eventually, but this will benifit you as well.

this being the case, Floater scientists will be willing to help out. It is the position of most Floaters that modified Humans and other sentients will one day inhabit every corner of the Galaxy. In exchange for a general military and cohabitation alliance, we will work closely with your scientists to advance your own genemodding technology.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-04-29 12:21pm

We accept the terms of this agreement. Come we have much to discuss.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-29 12:30pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Her Serene Majesty's Government cordially invites the Monacoran Empire, which has stinted by the plebes, to join with the Taloran Nation in upholding the rights of Sovereigns and the interests of Monarcharial government, which through long tradition and constancy has the clear advantage of the ages. We would hence propose an "Imperial League" for the interested Imperial Dynastic powers, to first consist of the Sovereigns of our nations and later to be expanded as interest and propiety allows.

The Asgard Empire would be interested in joing such an Imperial League.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-04-29 01:21pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
Her Serene Majesty's Government cordially invites the Monacoran Empire, which has stinted by the plebes, to join with the Taloran Nation in upholding the rights of Sovereigns and the interests of Monarcharial government, which through long tradition and constancy has the clear advantage of the ages. We would hence propose an "Imperial League" for the interested Imperial Dynastic powers, to first consist of the Sovereigns of our nations and later to be expanded as interest and propiety allows.
The New Roman Empire supports the creation of such a league.

As does the Holy Skaven Empire. We ask if elected monarchies are acceptable.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-04-29 01:22pm

Raxmei wrote:As does the Holy Skaven Empire. We ask if elected monarchies are acceptable.

Given her comment about dynastic monarchies I would think not, at least for now.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-04-29 03:03pm

Given her comment about dynastic monarchies I would think not, at least for now.

An elected monarch? give details as to what you mean by "elected monarch." You may yet be admitted to the Alliance of Democracies.

We accept the terms of this agreement. Come we have much to discuss.

Furthur clarifications of our new treaty can be discussed in the "Preliminary Force Declaration" thread. I'll post more there.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-04-29 03:48pm

The Raian republic wishes to join your alliance.
As the gods created all beings, it is foolish that rule should be by one person, save as a representative of their country. We would also like to point out that secular democracy, although it can make several wise laws, any government not guided by Slaic religious law is doomed to moral corruption and decay.

[ooc] I'm just roleplaying here. I actually prefer secular government, but the Raians are fundies. Just not very violent ones [/ooc]

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-29 03:49pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Her Serene Majesty's Government cordially invites the Monacoran Empire, which has stinted by the plebes, to join with the Taloran Nation in upholding the rights of Sovereigns and the interests of Monarcharial government, which through long tradition and constancy has the clear advantage of the ages. We would hence propose an "Imperial League" for the interested Imperial Dynastic powers, to first consist of the Sovereigns of our nations and later to be expanded as interest and propiety allows.

Since the Monacoran Empire's request of entry into the democratic league has already been accepted, one must wonder how much Her Majesty truly cares to have the assistance of the Monacorans, if she cannot be bothered to offer her hand until it is too late.

It is also suggested that her requests for alliances for protection of her aristocratic system of oppression be taken to a proper thread, perhaps one that is not already being used for discussion on a wholly different subject.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-29 03:51pm

The KSE and Raians are welcome to enter the Alliance for Democracy. The PSR recognizes the differing political views and structures of the members of this body and suggests that they offer their own view on the articles of this alliance.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-04-29 03:58pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:The KSE and Raians are welcome to enter the Alliance for Democracy. The PSR recognizes the differing political views and structures of the members of this body and suggests that they offer their own view on the articles of this alliance.

We are glad to be welcomed into your alliance but wonder if trade with Non-democratic star nations will still be permitted to it's members

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-29 04:01pm

After consideration The Kokand Empire has decided it will not join this treaty.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-04-29 04:06pm

Darksider wrote:We are glad to be welcomed into your alliance but wonder if trade with Non-democratic star nations will still be permitted to it's members

The pact is one of simple mutual defense and cooperation. You may trade with anyone you please, with the proviso that a nation may be ejected from the alliance if you participate in activities of which the other members do not approve (ex. slave trading).

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-04-29 04:39pm

Thirdfain wrote:
Given her comment about dynastic monarchies I would think not, at least for now.
An elected monarch? give details as to what you mean by "elected monarch." You may yet be admitted to the Alliance of Democracies.

The system is based on that used by the Holy Roman Empire. A council of electors composed of important nobles and clergy elect the Emperor. The candidates must be noblemen to be elected, though in the Skaven Empire it is possible to become a noble by various means. The Emperor rules for life or until removed.
That system doesn't look democratic enough to get in your organization. If it also isn't dynastic enough, it would appear we fall between two stools.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-04-29 04:40pm

The Monacoran Empire would like entery into both Democratic, and Non-Democratic alliances, prehaps we could be arranged as a sort of Liason between the two Alliances, making sure that neither one deliberatley tries to screw over the other alliance

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-29 04:43pm

While the North American Union agrees in principle to the second and third declarations set forth by the honorable Pan-Slavic Republic, we feel that we cannot join a military alliance at this time.