Unconditional Love

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-09-04 12:14am

Well now that you have entered the realm of roll-playing fantasy with the use of alter egos...

It falls under the domain of ME the proverbial DM

Comrade Yuri · Post by **Comrade Yuri** » 2002-09-04 12:20am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Well now that you have entered the realm of roll-playing fantasy with the use of alter egos...

It falls under the domain of ME the proverbial DM

Foolish Westerner! Once again, typical Captialist has made an underestimation. And once again, typical Captialist will pay for his mistakes!

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2002-09-05 10:52pm

Darth Wong wrote: There comes a time in your life when you realize that most of what you thought in your teen years was wrong, at least when it comes to matters of the heart.

Just out of curiosity, Master...
What did you believe in when you were a teen?

Sienthal · Post by **Sienthal** » 2002-09-05 11:09pm

Lots of posts.
My take on unconditional love:
What about people out there who's only condition is to love? I mean, some people need to simply give out love, or mentally crash and burn. At least, that's what I'm pretty sure happened to one of my cousins...Unless something more reasonable comes along to pin it on.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-05 11:39pm

SolidSnake wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: There comes a time in your life when you realize that most of what you thought in your teen years was wrong, at least when it comes to matters of the heart.
Just out of curiosity, Master...
What did you believe in when you were a teen?

When I was a snot-nosed teenager, I believed that there was no such thing as love. I believed that romantic love was nothing but glorified animal lust, and that platonic love was just a way of manufacturing quid-pro-quo relationships which you could fall back on if you ever needed a helping hand.

I was pretty cynical at the time. But it's hard to think straight when you're inflamed by raging hormones and your life is in continuous flux. It isn't until you settle down, get a job, and live a stable life for a while without some Big Change on the horizon that your mind begins to sort itself out, and you can begin to earnestly contemplate those things which rushed unbidden through your mind in your youth.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-05 11:44pm

SolidSnake wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: There comes a time in your life when you realize that most of what you thought in your teen years was wrong, at least when it comes to matters of the heart.
Just out of curiosity, Master...
What did you believe in when you were a teen?

Wow, when did you say this, Lord Wong?

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-09-06 08:38am

Darth Wong wrote:It isn't until you settle down, get a job, and live a stable life for a while without some Big Change on the horizon that your mind begins to sort itself out, and you can begin to earnestly contemplate those things which rushed unbidden through your mind in your youth.

And then you hit 50, your prostate gets bigger than your ego, you develop a hormonal need for a Miata, and you go back to thinking about women the same way you did when you were a teen.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-06 09:19am

Life's a circle indeed.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2002-09-06 09:49pm

I have some wisdom of the ages, with some new science to back it up.
There is a scaning tecnique called PET. Postiron Electro Tomography. They inject radioactive glucose into you blood, and scan your brain. What this does, in REAL time, is provide a dynamic picture of the level of brain activity, in 3D. (very useful for findind subtle brain damage) The results of studies, as if you REALY needed to spend tax dollars to kinow this, is as follows:

When a normal, (NOT brain damaged) heterosexual male sees a beautyful, (as defined by the subject) female, (or picture of a female)the pleasure center of the brain is activated. Rush of pleasure. When the same type of subject describes a person he is in love with,not only does the pleasure center increase it's activity level, but the level of activity in the critical thinking areas is DECREASED! Conclusion? The sight of a beautyful woman decreases the abilty to think clearly, and gives pleasure. DUH!

Like kicking a drug addiction, this physialogical responce is harder to overcome by force of will, and judgemant, then most people think. Usualy, experience and repeated "burned fingers" tempers, but never removes this natural male responce. It is hard wired into our brain.
Raycav is suffering from his instincive, but unhealthy, (like sugar and fat being so tastey) legacy arcitecture.

He is also being a typical teen, so self centered, that he doesn't see how he is mererly a bit part player in other people self centered "movie of life", of which we ALL are stars in.(To ourselves)
He is also playing the "I am unique, and my problems are not understandable to others" game that EVERY teen plays.

Remember this raycav, all snowflakes are unique, but few are special. (Exept to themselves!) What are you bringing to the party, besides your self? You are only special to yourself, until you DEMONSTRATE some special skill, or talent. Do you expect to go to college, take the senior courses,and be given a degree right away? Not a fucking chance. You need to take the PREREQUISITES, before you are even qualified to TAKE the advanced coures. The same holds true for LIFE.

There is ALWAYS some point you start from, be it illiterate kindergartener, or advanced placemant college freshman. I suspect you see the graduates, and not the work they did to get their degree, be it in college, or the "school of life."

In psycological terms, there is a thing called successive aproxamation. In english it means "baby steps." Babies don't just get up one day and run. First they stand with both hands to staedy themselves. Then, one hand. Then no hands. Then one step. FALL DOWN! failure is inevitable, when you risk. Soon , the rug rats are running mom and dad ragged!

Start at the beginning. Be humble. Do you think Bruce Lee popped out of the womb with a jump spinning heel kick? (Do you think Lou Ferrigno, {the incredible Hulk} was born massively muscled? (NO, He was so scrawny that he worked out for 2 years in his basement before he had the courage to even GO to a gym!)Do you think Darth Wong matured with no input in 3 weeks, like a Jem Haddar? You name a hero, and I'll show you lots of hard work, and sweat. (Most of which is not visible to any but the sweater)

I suggest, if you realy WANT to get somewhere in life, and gain some confidence along the way, (which, by the way, is the ULTIMATE aphrodisiac to women) pick an activity, like martial arts, or weight lifting, that is guarenteed to pay off ONLY after a long time, (3 monthes MINIMUM)and stick with it. Keep chart of your progress, but only on a MONTHLY basis! If you haven't done it for at least 6 months before you quit, you can't succeed. Patience is an AQUIRED skill, like walking. How long did it take you to learn to walk anyway? Expect setbacks, and backsliding. Don't quit completely because you fucked off for a week.

Are you sane enough to act crazy? Are you strong enough to act weak?

This is for your happiness. Can you think of anything more worthy of your time and effort?

Ask yourself, "what do I want? Can it be achieved? (You will NEVER date Britney Spears, or any of a number of beautyful but poisonous women. The hard wired brain responce gives them choices they don't deserve.)) What are the PREREQUISITES to getting what I want?"
Also, ask yourself if you have a case of grandiousity. If you DEMAND good looks, you must COMMAND good looks, if this is the sole basis of your choice.

Suck it up, and tough it out soldier! Worst case scenareo, join the army or navy. They WILL mature you, although you won't like the process!

Tebrak'aun · Post by **Tebrak'aun** » 2002-09-07 03:39pm

An interesting question posed to me about romantic love was "who would you choose the girl you loved the most or the girl who loved you best?" Now logically I know I should choose the girl who would love me best because that is the most mutually rewarding and sensible choice yet I know in my heart I would always choose the girl I love most. Its because for the majority of people me included romantic love is a purely selfish exercise we treat someone the way we think they should be treated not the way they want to be treated. We make sacrifices for them that go unasked, unwanted and unappreciated because having these things done for us would make us feel loved but we don't realise that it may not be the same for the other person. Surely true love would mean that at the end of a relationship there is no ill will no bitterness just a sincere desire that your ex finds the happiness and satisfaction you can no longer provide. But hey honestly how many of us havent had a relationship where our sincerest desire was to have someone come slinking back to us telling us how leaving us was the worst mistake ever.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-08 01:12am

Tebrak'aun wrote:An interesting question posed to me about romantic love was "who would you choose the girl you loved the most or the girl who loved you best?" Now logically I know I should choose the girl who would love me best because that is the most mutually rewarding and sensible choice yet I know in my heart I would always choose the girl I love most.

Ideally, they're the same person.

Its because for the majority of people me included romantic love is a purely selfish exercise we treat someone the way we think they should be treated not the way they want to be treated. We make sacrifices for them that go unasked, unwanted and unappreciated because having these things done for us would make us feel loved but we don't realise that it may not be the same for the other person.

Is that selfish? Or is it merely unimaginative and insufficiently observant?

Surely true love would mean that at the end of a relationship there is no ill will no bitterness just a sincere desire that your ex finds the happiness and satisfaction you can no longer provide. But hey honestly how many of us havent had a relationship where our sincerest desire was to have someone come slinking back to us telling us how leaving us was the worst mistake ever.

Compare the films "Ghost" and "Always" to see two takes on that (I don't think conventional breakups are a good test, since a healthy relationship won't break up, so it's difficult to argue that true love existed beforehand).

PS. Yes, I'm one of those sappy sentimental people who's sure that he's found true love.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-08 12:14pm

Darth Wong wrote: PS. Yes, I'm one of those sappy sentimental people who's sure that he's found true love.

Cool! More power to you, God!

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2002-09-08 01:57pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: PS. Yes, I'm one of those sappy sentimental people who's sure that he's found true love.
Cool! More power to you, God!

More power? He already has absolute power, dude, he's the Moderator!

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-08 02:43pm

Eleas wrote:
RayCav of ASVS wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: PS. Yes, I'm one of those sappy sentimental people who's sure that he's found true love.
Cool! More power to you, God!
More power? He already has absolute power, dude, he's the Moderator!

True. And he is more than just a "Moderator", he IS GOD!

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-09-08 02:55pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote: True. And he is more than just a "Moderator", he IS GOD!

Don't say that. Lord Wong will probally have to kill himself out of shame.

It would really be a great loss

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-08 02:58pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
RayCav of ASVS wrote: True. And he is more than just a "Moderator", he IS GOD!
Don't say that. Lord Wong will probally have to kill himself out of shame.

It would really be a great loss

Pah, he won't. You have just made the futile mistake of underestimating Lord Wong

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Unconditional Love

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