Things on the board that are pissing me off

[Captain tycho]

This thread takes many twists and turns

Your telling me.
First it was Durandal complaning about newbies, etc, now it's chat about good looks.
You guys sure know how to hijack a thread.

[Oddity]

Okay, I've had it up to here <makes threatening gesture with hand> with newbies who come on the board with the rather funny ideas that they have to do something aside from being reasonable to gain a certain amount of acceptance here. I've dubbed this fuckwits "Me Too Newbies."

On a related note (for this thread's original subject): When are you no longer considered a newbie?

[Durandal]

Okay, I've had it up to here <makes threatening gesture with hand> with newbies who come on the board with the rather funny ideas that they have to do something aside from being reasonable to gain a certain amount of acceptance here. I've dubbed this fuckwits "Me Too Newbies."

On a related note (for this thread's original subject): When are you no longer considered a newbie?

There's no discrete line. It's more like a kind of behavioral pattern.

[seanrobertson]

Okay, I've had it up to here <makes threatening gesture with hand> with newbies who come on the board with the rather funny ideas that they have to do something aside from being reasonable to gain a certain amount of acceptance here. I've dubbed this fuckwits "Me Too Newbies."

Yeah, boy, I hate those guys!



Heh, I'm teasing, Damien. I do agree with you; I think lots of such people try to curry favor such that, when they make a realmistake, they might be given some slack.

Some of that is natural. A lot of it is just chickenshit.

I see no purpose for such threads other than to try and impress the more well-known and respected members of the board with a dislike of Christianity or fundamentalists. Frankly, this is just fucking annoying (to me, anyway). Not only is it annoying, but it gives a bad impression of the board. Newbies come here expecting to be able to gang up on Christians for some good ole fashioned cyber-lynching. And this contributes to the image of the board being what is, for all intents and purposes, an atheist wankfest. This is not an image I want for the board, and I'm fairly sure that neither Mike nor any of the other moderators do, either.

Certainly not. The occurence of this hasn't really turned me off--I've been here since the beginning, even if I don't post a lot--but I could see how someone might conclude that a lot of such sentiment is knee-jerking. And occassionally, it does seem like some of the people to which you refer are no better than the religious fundamentalists they criticize; while the formers' conclusions are far more defensible, the methods they use to reach said conclusions are just as crude and irrational.

Another contributing factor is the fact that this website is, by and large, on an entirely different level than most from which others come. That's evident by the fact that I've heard folks refer to Michael's main pages and talk of "his debate fallacies." Mike has as firm a grasp on them as anyone I know, but that these people think he coined all of them strongly indicates that they're more accustomed to an AOL chatroom-style exchange than a true argument.

It is annoying. I try to ignore such things just as I would their request to "invade" some Christian website.

[seanrobertson]

Okay, I've had it up to here <makes threatening gesture with hand> with newbies who come on the board with the rather funny ideas that they have to do something aside from being reasonable to gain a certain amount of acceptance here. I've dubbed this fuckwits "Me Too Newbies."

On a related note (for this thread's original subject): When are you no longer considered a newbie?

If you're the Crazy Ivan I remember from ASVS, you're not a newbie. Even with one post here, you wouldn't be, IMO...many of us have known Mike and done the SW-ST dance for years but haven't posted here all that much. We definitely ain't "newbies," no moreso than if Curtis decided to start posting here tomorrow.

[Admiral Valdemar]

This thread is too funny in a disturbing way.

*Grabs popcorn*

[Ted]

This thread is too funny in a disturbing way.

*Grabs popcorn*

Yeah, lately threads here on anything, even really serious issues get hilarious.

[Ignorant_Boy]

*meep?*

[seanrobertson]

*meep?*

I'm not familiar with you, IB. But you don't have a colorful title, so you're doing something right

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

BAH! All you "pretty" boys should ph34r the day I, yes I, Frank Hipper, posts my glorious mug!
I had your pretty, pretty boyish looks until I matured! And now I am chock full of MANLY beauty! Women mourn the fact that I'm unassailable. Men gnash their teeth in frustration that they don't have my wondrous good looks!
The day shall come when Einy posts the immortal multi-colored BOING! for me!
Zaia shall swoon, FOR ME!
My visage shall be posted by horny teens in the "Most gorgeous male of any hair color" thread!
Even Darth Wong shall say "Hmmmm"!Am I laying it on thick enough, yet?
Oh, it'll happen. Trust me....

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!!!

As for Hotfoot and Utsanomiko:

BOING!

[Admiral Valdemar]

BAH! All you "pretty" boys should ph34r the day I, yes I, Frank Hipper, posts my glorious mug!
I had your pretty, pretty boyish looks until I matured! And now I am chock full of MANLY beauty! Women mourn the fact that I'm unassailable. Men gnash their teeth in frustration that they don't have my wondrous good looks!
The day shall come when Einy posts the immortal multi-colored BOING! for me!
Zaia shall swoon, FOR ME!
My visage shall be posted by horny teens in the "Most gorgeous male of any hair color" thread!
Even Darth Wong shall say "Hmmmm"!Am I laying it on thick enough, yet?
Oh, it'll happen. Trust me....

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!!!

As for Hotfoot and Utsanomiko:

BOING!

There you go boys, you're officially on Ein's Good Enough to Boink list.

Whether you interpret that as being as good as the Vanity Fair Men of the Year list or Iraqi Wanted Deck of Cards list is upto you.

[Lagmonster]

Okay, I've had it up to here <makes threatening gesture with hand> with newbies who come on the board with the rather funny ideas that they have to do something aside from being reasonable to gain a certain amount of acceptance here. I've dubbed this fuckwits "Me Too Newbies."

On a related note (for this thread's original subject): When are you no longer considered a newbie?

There's no discrete line. It's more like a kind of behavioral pattern.

Nor is there a line in the sand for post-counts or join dates. I've been here since a few days after the board went up, but haven't posted as much as people with half my tenure. Likewise, I have no 'precursor' ASVS or other history to bring me notoriety or otherwise.

Beyond all that, I haven't been considered a newbie here for ages, if ever. I figure, if people lurk for a while, or take the time to study nettiquette, or just plain come in with good manners and proper grammar, they can pass for a regular and not betray their newbieness.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I've only recently started really posting here despite joining a day after this board came into being (I only heard a day later than everyone else).

I haven't been on ASVS for ages because I normally lurked and only posted when there was a debate a wanted to get in on, but I've not debated ST vs. SW in around 2 years now.

I have always posted most on SB.com and am the resident king of posting (:P) but the place isn't as good as it used to be thus SD.net is now my target for attention now.

Never been called a newbie here though as far as I can tell.

[Zaia]

BAH! All you "pretty" boys should ph34r the day I, yes I, Frank Hipper, posts my glorious mug!
I had your pretty, pretty boyish looks until I matured! And now I am chock full of MANLY beauty! Women mourn the fact that I'm unassailable. Men gnash their teeth in frustration that they don't have my wondrous good looks!
The day shall come when Einy posts the immortal multi-colored BOING! for me!
Zaia shall swoon, FOR ME!
My visage shall be posted by horny teens in the "Most gorgeous male of any hair color" thread!
Even Darth Wong shall say "Hmmmm"!Am I laying it on thick enough, yet?
Oh, it'll happen. Trust me....

ROTFLMAO

*gets up, dusts self off, swoons over Frank, falls on floor and starts ROTFL again*

[Ghost Rider]

BAH! All you "pretty" boys should ph34r the day I, yes I, Frank Hipper, posts my glorious mug!
I had your pretty, pretty boyish looks until I matured! And now I am chock full of MANLY beauty! Women mourn the fact that I'm unassailable. Men gnash their teeth in frustration that they don't have my wondrous good looks!
The day shall come when Einy posts the immortal multi-colored BOING! for me!
Zaia shall swoon, FOR ME!
My visage shall be posted by horny teens in the "Most gorgeous male of any hair color" thread!
Even Darth Wong shall say "Hmmmm"!Am I laying it on thick enough, yet?
Oh, it'll happen. Trust me....

You can try but like how I think of all men.

We're just ugly...too hairy and what not.

So unless you be a woman..no gnashing of teeth .

[Connor MacLeod]

BAH! All you "pretty" boys should ph34r the day I, yes I, Frank Hipper, posts my glorious mug!
I had your pretty, pretty boyish looks until I matured! And now I am chock full of MANLY beauty! Women mourn the fact that I'm unassailable. Men gnash their teeth in frustration that they don't have my wondrous good looks!
The day shall come when Einy posts the immortal multi-colored BOING! for me!
Zaia shall swoon, FOR ME!
My visage shall be posted by horny teens in the "Most gorgeous male of any hair color" thread!
Even Darth Wong shall say "Hmmmm"!Am I laying it on thick enough, yet?
Oh, it'll happen. Trust me....

<smacks you upside the head> Stop that. You'll rile up the rest of the prettyboys

[aerius]

I say if you want to be like Wong, at least do it the right way by properly engaging in whatever debates that are in your field instead of parroting everyone else.

This here I think is the key, debate in subjects you are knowledgeable about so you don't make an ass of yourself. Post in threads that you're interested in where you can make a good contribution. For instance I'd guess that ~90% of my posts have to do with music, sex/porn, relationship issues, materials properties, and dirty humour. I rarely post religion or medical related stuff because I know jack shit about it and I'd sound like a fool in most cases.

Also, I feel this TGOD shit is getting out of hand, seems like every time a thread slows down for a while it turns into a TGOD which takes up a fucking page or 2 before it gets locked or split and put back on topic, you have a damn gaming forum for that shit, use it!