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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote:Oh, and Soviet Union twice? All I can recall is when the US was trying to stop the Reds from taking over after WW1.
IIRC they sent some troops to back up the White Army during the civil war.
The US sent forces to several parts of Russia in 1918 and 1919; it's probably counting them separately. There main objective wasn't so much to directly support the whites as to keep the Reds from capturing the huge supply stock that had built up at Arkhangelsk. Through out WW1 the UK and France sent supplies to that port, but its railway connection was shitty so few could actually reach Russia armies.
I though their goal was to totally wipe out the Reds so Bolshevism didn't spread.
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Gandalf wrote:
I though their goal was to totally wipe out the Reds so Bolshevism didn't spread.
That was a goal, but there was never any real effort to accomplish it and US commanders knew they didn't have the troops. As a result they never went far from their ports they landed at and mostly just guarded the munitions stock piles.

The British also intervened along similar lines. They wanted to see the Reds crushed, but where content to destroy what could be a direct threat. To that extent they sank or damaged much of the Russian fleet at Kronstadt and in the Black Sea, and also wiped out Red shipping on the Caspian Sea.
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Harry Browne wrote:But today there are people living here who don't like the American tradition of peace and friendship. They want America to roam the world — attempting to right all the wrongs — no matter how often it fails to achieve its utopian goals.
So this guy is all about isolationism, hmmmm yeah that always works out great :roll: . This guy doesn't like the US being a major player in world affairs, but (I say) it would be totally irresponsible of the US to ignore their role in the world.
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