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No dumbass, it's not. It would be 256 megatons x 1000 fired = 256,000 megatons of weapons impacts vs 416666666.7 megatons of shielding per second.Sovereign wrote:51,200,000 megatons if you divide by 50 to compensate for the fact that not 100% of the explosive force is not impacted. But it is still 51,200,000 megatons vs 24,000.
Simple typo. SD.NET, on Star Wars: Imperial Shieldspage, part two of first peice of info, last sentance of ROTJ battle,anarchistbunny wrote:Also would you mind posting a link for the Endor quote, ST.net doesn't really give any insight to were that came from.
If similar fire rates occured in the Endor battle (note that we are disregarding the heavy turbolasers which would increase the estimate by an order of magnitude), this means that the energy capacity of a Star Destroyer's shields is between 1.4E19 and 9E20 joules, so 1E20 joules (24,000 megatons) is a reasonable estimate.
well, it says...HENCE WHY IT IS UNDER REVISION!
It does not say, UNDER REVISION. So I guess now that the figures are lower than what the Canon says they are, then I guess telling other Trekkies to "READ THE DAMN SITE' is out becuase the info is nolonger accurate.Written: 1998.08.01
Last Revised: 1999.10.06
A page that was written 5 years ago when there was no ICS.Sovereign wrote:Simple typo. SD.NET, on Star Wars: Imperial Shieldspage, part two of first peice of info, last sentance of ROTJ battle,anarchistbunny wrote:Also would you mind posting a link for the Endor quote, ST.net doesn't really give any insight to were that came from.
If similar fire rates occured in the Endor battle (note that we are disregarding the heavy turbolasers which would increase the estimate by an order of magnitude), this means that the energy capacity of a Star Destroyer's shields is between 1.4E19 and 9E20 joules, so 1E20 joules (24,000 megatons) is a reasonable estimate.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/WhatsNew.htmlSovereign wrote:well, it says...HENCE WHY IT IS UNDER REVISION!
It does not say, UNDER REVISION. So I guess now that the figures are lower than what the Canon says they are, then I guess telling other Trekkies to "READ THE DAMN SITE' is out becuase the info is nolonger accurate.Written: 1998.08.01
Last Revised: 1999.10.06
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tac ... paign.htmlI plan to eventually update my site to reflect these specifications (and also to address the inevitable mindlessly unscientific fanboy anti-SW criticisms of the book and ad hominem attacks on Curtis as they flow in), but in the meantime, I've discovered that at least one Trekkie has already developed a fool-proof way of dealing with the book. Click here to see a short video clip of his preferred solution (475kB, Divx5 codec required).
Did you ever think that maybe there was a totally new page and that the old one just hasn't been deleated and changed yet.Sovereign wrote:well, it says...HENCE WHY IT IS UNDER REVISION!
It does not say, UNDER REVISION. So I guess now that the figures are lower than what the Canon says they are, then I guess telling other Trekkies to "READ THE DAMN SITE' is out becuase the info is nolonger accurate.Written: 1998.08.01
Last Revised: 1999.10.06
I thought Tarkin said something about Alderaan being the first test firing for the Death Star.....SPOOFE wrote:Expanded literature describes the DS1 as having also destroyed Despayre, the prison-planet around which it was built.2? What other planet was destroyed? Last time I checked, Alderaan was the only planet destroyed by the DS.
If I recall CorrectlyAdmiral Johnason wrote:Is a hoser a cross between a fucker and an asshole
BTW, what does IIRC mean?
No evidence. You want to believe that the bioships survived the destruction of the borg planet, but you have nothing backing up that claim.Sovereign wrote:The 9 bioships in Scorpion escaped the planet’s destruction, they just went back to Fluidic Space.
Once again the guy bases his arguments on the name of the weapon rather than its power lever. how many times have we seen this weak argument?Also, everyone assumes that Laser weapons have the ability to damage or destroy bioships
Because the 8472 are weaker than the Vong. You assume that just because both use "biotechnology" that they must be the same strength? A human being and a bear both use "biotech". Do you really think they are evenly matched in a fight?but from what is going on now, the SW galaxy is getting its ass beat by a Race of Organic people called the Yuuzhan Vong. Why would S8472 be any different?
They have shields that can block a certain amount of energy from borg attacks. Big deal. So did the E-E in ST:FC. Once again you take a given ability (resistance to borg weapons) and assume that it must be infinite. Please justify this assumption.And one more thing, S8472 ships are resistant to Energy weapons
Nopeand there own weapons of are raw power
Sorry, the reason the borg couldn't adapt is still under debate. However, the episode does disprove the ridiculous notion that the borg can adapt to anything.(which is why the Borg could not adapt efficiently).
So if two bioships were to fight each other you really think that neither would win and the fight would go on indefinitely? This is ludicrous. If two cubes fought each other would the fight last forever? Would two GCS's be able to hold off infinite amounts of each other's weapons?They should have a defense against their own types of weapons.
Your right, there is no evidence to back this up, however, if this is true, then it conferms the exsistance of more than one Planet Killer.No evidence. You want to believe that the bioships survived the destruction of the borg planet, but you have nothing backing up that claim.
Because the 8472 are weaker than the Vong.
The Enterprise-E was hit like 2 or 3 times by the Cube. That bioship that was damaged fought 15 Cubes, even if it wasn’t alone, It would have been heavily pounded on, and it still was regenerating.They have shields that can block a certain amount of energy from borg attacks. Big deal. So did the E-E in ST:FC. Once again you take a given ability (resistance to borg weapons) and assume that it must be infinite. Please justify this assumption.
Nope, they would last a long time in battle, but one would been taken down in the end. If two bears fight in the woods, even if they are the same strength, one will eventually prevail.So if two bioships were to fight each other you really think that neither would win and the fight would go on indefinitely?
If it were true, which it appears it is not.Sovereign wrote:Your right, there is no evidence to back this up, however, if this is true, then it conferms the exsistance of more than one Planet Killer.
Read the EU books with them in, the Vong seem to be more than a passing threat like S8472 were.Were is your proof of that?
Assuming the Borg could hit it and also assuming it didn't just, like you, do hit and run tactics. Also assuming it was alone.The Enterprise-E was hit like 2 or 3 times by the Cube. That bioship that was damaged fought 15 Cubes, even if it wasn’t alone, It would have been heavily pounded on, and it still was regenerating.
I have no idea what I'm supposed to say he, so I'll just ignore it.Nope, they would last a long time in battle, but one would been taken down in the end. If two bears fight in the woods, even if they are the same strength, one will eventually prevail.
What's wrong with assuming?Darth Pounder wrote:Assumption is the mother of aff fuck ups. Our resident "lying asck of shit" seems to do that a lot. At SD.Net we deal with facts, assumption is as welcome as your mother at an all you can eat buffet.
Oh I know, I was just being pedantic to mock Sovereign. At least I assume I was.Darth Pounder wrote:Thats not an assumption however. It is a theory based on the evidence stated in Wongs site. An assumption is a claim based on nothinb but hope.
The insult wasn't directed at you any way. It was directed at Soverign. I shoulda made that more clear.
Sovereign wrote:
Were is your proof of that?
Assuming the E-E is x3 the shields of the E-D (90 megatons) and those 3 hits took down the shields, Borg weapons are 30 megatons. Since 8472 ships can get damaged by at best a 100 shots. Wow, a Sesmic charge could probably blow it, never mind a HTL.
The Enterprise-E was hit like 2 or 3 times by the Cube. That bioship that was damaged fought 15 Cubes, even if it wasn’t alone, It would have been heavily pounded on, and it still was regenerating.
Nope, they would last a long time in battle, but one would been taken down in the end. If two bears fight in the woods, even if they are the same strength, one will eventually prevail.
