[STGOD] Anti-slavery Alliance

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-04-30 12:06pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:It i the concept. True we use robots...but those are living beathing creatures... dnt know, gut instinct, it just strikes me as wrong from the outset...Before I truly formulate an opinion, are they self aware?

No. Froyts are not self aware. If they were smarter, they'd attack their reflection, if they saw it. As is, they aren't smart enough to do anything except what a Raian tells them to do. The Raian telepathically plants impulses in the Froyt's brain. Froyts are too stupid too understand speech.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-04-30 06:44pm

Setzer wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:It i the concept. True we use robots...but those are living beathing creatures... dnt know, gut instinct, it just strikes me as wrong from the outset...Before I truly formulate an opinion, are they self aware?
No. Froyts are not self aware. If they were smarter, they'd attack their reflection, if they saw it. As is, they aren't smart enough to do anything except what a Raian tells them to do. The Raian telepathically plants impulses in the Froyt's brain. Froyts are too stupid too understand speech.

If that is the case...then we do not object.

Me being the Minister of Sin has no bearing n this case...I subscribe to a system of ethics silmilar to Earths "secular humanism" and so does my entire race. Some of outr ethics go counter to those of a religious people...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-04-30 07:08pm

The Kokand Empire must ask for clarification regarding this treaty and conscription.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-30 07:10pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:The Kokand Empire must ask for clarification regarding this treaty and conscription.

Conscripts get paid, correct? And they have a fixed term of service correct? So therefore they are not slaves.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-05-01 12:39am

To those concerned: The Republic of Tho'a-hal respectfully request membership into the Anti-Slavery Alliance.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-01 12:40am

Lord of the Farce wrote:To those concerned: The Republic of Tho'a-hal respectfully request membership into the Anti-Slavery Alliance.

*hands over treaty*

Sign here.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-05-01 12:48am

Beowulf wrote:*hands over treaty*

Sign here.

*Signs, and sends the necessary copies back home to Tho'a-hal*

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-01 12:50am

Beowulf wrote:
Conscripts get paid, correct? And they have a fixed term of service correct?

Term of service is dependent on health. However our conscription system and indeed any other could easily be considered to violate the first part.

1. Forced and involuntary servitude of a sentient species.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-05-01 09:20am

Alyrium Denryle wrote: If that is the case...then we do not object.

Me being the Minister of Sin has no bearing n this case...I subscribe to a system of ethics silmilar to Earths "secular humanism" and so does my entire race. Some of outr ethics go counter to those of a religious people...

Ohhh great. A secular humanistic nation against a theocratic democracy. We'll get along like Greece and Turkey.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-05-01 09:22am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
Conscripts get paid, correct? And they have a fixed term of service correct?
Term of service is dependent on health. However our conscription system and indeed any other could easily be considered to violate the first part.

1. Forced and involuntary servitude of a sentient species.

It is a bit redundant. I'd be willing to change it to "Forced and unpaid or otherwise unrewarded servitude of a sentient species." Is that OK?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-01 09:27am

Setzer wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: If that is the case...then we do not object.

Me being the Minister of Sin has no bearing n this case...I subscribe to a system of ethics silmilar to Earths "secular humanism" and so does my entire race. Some of outr ethics go counter to those of a religious people...
Ohhh great. A secular humanistic nation against a theocratic democracy. We'll get along like Greece and Turkey.

But then again, we dont have a long history of war in our history...no racial hatred...Lets hope we do better than them.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-01 03:05pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Term of service is dependent on health. However our conscription system and indeed any other could easily be considered to violate the first part.

1. Forced and involuntary servitude of a sentient species.

The PIR has no problem with this since all of it's conscripts are eager to serve

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2003-05-01 09:22pm

The Mensia-Dorian Hegemony hearby agrees and we sign the treaty at once.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-05-02 01:00am

The Outworlds Allianceherby requests membership of the Anti-Slavery League.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-02 01:11am

3rd Impact wrote:The Outworlds Allianceherby requests membership of the Anti-Slavery League.

*treaty gets passed over*
Sign on the next empty space.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-05-02 02:28am

Beowulf wrote:
3rd Impact wrote:The Outworlds Allianceherby requests membership of the Anti-Slavery League.
*treaty gets passed over*
Sign on the next empty space.

*Signs*

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-02 03:38am

*signs in "Stargate" looking symbols+Norse Runes*

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-05-03 10:01am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Setzer wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: If that is the case...then we do not object.

Me being the Minister of Sin has no bearing n this case...I subscribe to a system of ethics silmilar to Earths "secular humanism" and so does my entire race. Some of outr ethics go counter to those of a religious people...
Ohhh great. A secular humanistic nation against a theocratic democracy. We'll get along like Greece and Turkey.
But then again, we dont have a long history of war in our history...no racial hatred...Lets hope we do better than them.

Amen to that. BTW ::signs treaty::

FBHthelizardmage · Post by **FBHthelizardmage** » 2003-05-03 12:32pm

Have we signed this yet?

(this from the Cutaniod whos representing Whats Left)

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-05-04 07:54pm

*signs*

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-05-04 08:02pm

Thread locked. Diplomacy goes into the story thread, and in diplomatic communication form. Backstory negotiation now ends.