Here's a GE/UPF Question for everyone (probably been done)

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-04 09:59pm

Alyeska wrote:Possibly a similar design flaw as the Executor class had. In ROTJ when the bridge was taken out the engines miss fired and the Executor plunged into the DS2. Its possible in the ESB scene that there was feedback damage in the ship and the lights flared in the location the captain was at. That causes him to throw up his arm and turn his head to protect his eyes. Further damage then cut the holonet transmission between the captain and the Executor.

I am the only one who can say leap of logic? Those are a lot of assumptions.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-04 09:59pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Alyeska wrote:In ROTJ when the bridge was taken out the engines miss fired
The engines were shot to shit. There are flame plumes visible as it crashes.

It is not widely recognized that the whole dorsal surface of the ship is pockmarked with damage and flame plumes BEFORE the tower dome is taken out by fighters. It's pretty obvious when you look at it on laserdisc, and I suspect that when the DVD's finally come out, people will finally notice this. Years of VHS-quality SW have allowed people to pretend that the ship was perfectly intact until those fighters hit it.

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2003-05-04 10:01pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:FYI Alyeska can credit the picture toDarkstar.

Seems fairly convincing.

He also created a thread about it awhile ago on spacebattles. Here

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-04 10:02pm

Darth Wong wrote:It is not widely recognized that the whole dorsal surface of the ship is pockmarked with damage and flame plumes BEFORE the tower dome is taken out by fighters. It's pretty obvious when you look at it on laserdisc, and I suspect that when the DVD's finally come out, people will finally notice this. Years of VHS-quality SW have allowed people to pretend that the ship was perfectly intact until those fighters hit it.

This proves the other shield sections were out well before the bridge's personal shielding was killed.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-04 10:02pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Alyeska wrote:In ROTJ when the bridge was taken out the engines miss fired
The engines were shot to shit. There are flame plumes visible as it crashes.
It is not widely recognized that the whole dorsal surface of the ship is pockmarked with damage and flame plumes BEFORE the tower dome is taken out by fighters. It's pretty obvious when you look at it on laserdisc, and I suspect that when the DVD's finally come out, people will finally notice this. Years of VHS-quality SW have allowed people to pretend that the ship was perfectly intact until those fighters hit it.

Thats fairly reasonable. The Executor was experiencing shield holes and it explains how it died so quickly.

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2003-05-04 10:04pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:FYI Alyeska can credit the picture toDarkstar.

Seems fairly convincing.

He also created a thread about it awhile ago on spacebattles. Here

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-04 10:04pm

Darth Wong wrote:As for the incident in question, I need to review it again. Are those lights shining through from the Executor, or are they glowing debris from the impact? And the question of where all this material went does bear repeating given this interpretation; the asteroid simply isn't carrying enough energy to vapourize that much metal, and the blast would be much brighter if that were the case anyway.

That is why I am inclined to believe that the asteroid crumpled the forward section of the bridge. Requires much less energy and explains why there was little debris from the bridge itself.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-04 10:07pm

Wild Karrde wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:FYI Alyeska can credit the picture toDarkstar.

Seems fairly convincing.
He also created a thread about it awhile ago on spacebattles. Here

Much as people dislike DarkStar, that thread was very useful on this particular subject.

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-05-05 03:29am

Those images do seem to line up, although it could be that the ISD is turning, which would explain it.

Again though, I doubt the bridge vaporized.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-05 04:37pm

Darth Wong wrote: It is not widely recognized that the whole dorsal surface of the ship is pockmarked with damage and flame plumes BEFORE the tower dome is taken out by fighters. It's pretty obvious when you look at it on laserdisc, and I suspect that when the DVD's finally come out, people will finally notice this. Years of VHS-quality SW have allowed people to pretend that the ship was perfectly intact until those fighters hit it.

Not to doubt your credibility, but can you get a screenshot?