A possible AIDS remedy

[Queeb Salaron]

Paper cuts? If you want to prove me irrational, don't use slippery slope tactics. I just wanted an honest opinion devoid of any hotheaded emotional tangents.

I didn't find the topic rational in the first place. And everyone else said what I wanted to say, so I said what had remained unsaid.

And the slippery slope is relevant here, though not to the extent that I portrayed, I admit. (I thought that much was obvious, but I guess not.) If we start killing people with AIDS, why not people with Ebola? Or why not people with HIV so that the disease couldn't be transmitted at all? And then when the next epidemic breaks out (SARS is a scary concept) why not blow all those people up, too?

Besides, if you were going to kill a mass number of people, you most certainly could NOT do it under the pretense of receiving medical treatment. That is totally unethical, immoral, inhumane, unhuman, and a whole bunch of other words that haven't been invented yet. They'd have to create a entire new wing of Hell just for the person who gave such a command.

[Loki]

And the slippery slope is relevant here, though not to the extent that I portrayed, I admit. (I thought that much was obvious, but I guess not.) If we start killing people with AIDS, why not people with Ebola? Or why not people with HIV so that the disease couldn't be transmitted at all? And then when the next epidemic breaks out (SARS is a scary concept) why not blow all those people up, too?

No, the arguement is not valid without an examination of the status quo that indicates that once the program was launched that it would cause the impacts that you've described, and a quantitative negative impact against the eradication of terminal disease through genocide. If you can provide that, then I will withdraw my objections and weigh that against the benefits.

[Yogi]

Even if you argue from a purely utilitarian standpoint, there really is no reason to kill them. Besides, a cure might be found a few years down the line, and they can all be freed.

Unfortunatly, from any other moral viewpoint (besides some flavors of religons), rounding all of them up and kiling them is horribly wrong.

[NapoleonGH]

Depending on what moral view you take, killing all people with aids COULD be a moral view, basically from a Utilitarian view this could be the case, but since there are ways of preventing the spread without killing them it is pointless.

The big problem with aids is the fact that all the africans with it dont get proper medical care.

[Loki]

Depending on what moral view you take, killing all people with aids COULD be a moral view, basically from a Utilitarian view this could be the case, but since there are ways of preventing the spread without killing them it is pointless.

Preventing yes, but not stopping.

[Setzer]

::Sigh:: This is what happens when I go by my natural sense of what's right and wrong. It would seem to me that people with AIDS would want to be put out of their misery. If I had AIDS, I'd sure want to be euthanized.
Wish I hadn't posted this.

[Enforcer Talen]

think of it this way - you have a disease which will kill you in under 75 yrs, guarenteed. most of that time will be miserable, living as a cubicle worker, or lacking any meaning for existence. pain is quite probable as a bonus.

shouldnt we put you out of your misery before hand?

[JodoForce]

Perhaps, if you did this when AIDS was a new disease, only a few people were infected, no research on curing AIDS had been done, and no cure was in sight... yes?

Now it would be utterly stupid.

[Setzer]

think of it this way - you have a disease which will kill you in under 75 yrs, guarenteed. most of that time will be miserable, living as a cubicle worker, or lacking any meaning for existence. pain is quite probable as a bonus.

shouldnt we put you out of your misery before hand?

Are you talking about the life cycle? I can think of such things objectively. I've thought about it during my occasional mood swings, and I can honestly say that if someone came up and put a gun to my head, I wouldn't much care.

[Rye]

think of it this way - you have a disease which will kill you in under 75 yrs, guarenteed. most of that time will be miserable, living as a cubicle worker, or lacking any meaning for existence. pain is quite probable as a bonus.

shouldnt we put you out of your misery before hand?

Life is pain, pain leads to despair, how do i get over despair? I get angry.

-badly quoted form juggernaut.