Do you want a heaven to exist?

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Post by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi »

I'd like a Heaven and Hell to exist. The Hell is for all of the murderers, rapists, and the like.

I wouldn't want the Biblical heaven for several reasons:
1. It's too hard to get into, with all of the prerequisites set in the Bible. I want to live in a mansion, and bang several women every night and still be able to get the same in the afterlife
2. Playing golf with Jesus is going to get boring eventually. And he'll probably have God fix the game or something
3. What if you can't play the harp?

Instead, I picture Heaven as a place where people get things they wanted.
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Heaven and hell, fine. Heaven needs to be perpetually expanding or already infinite. (so that it doesn't get looped into a limited number of possible permutations.) Hell would be a temporary (no person can actually commit a crime worth "eternal punishment." It just doesn't work out mathematically. What finite evil could possibly merit eternal suffering? [mind you, this is temporary with respect to eternity. It could be pretty effin' long]) holding/reprocessing region for "evil-doers" to sorta massage all the dumb and nastyness out of 'em.
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Like I've said before, I find the goal of going into heaven to be extremely self-centered and hollow. It irritates me that someone is spending their like with the pompous hope that they'll be given an existance of meaningless bliss in the end.
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I like the Greek idea of Hades. More specifically, I've always wanted to go to the Elysian fields and have naked women feed me grapes. And figs. And ambrosial nectar. Whatever that is. And SHITLOADS of malt wine.

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I want the VR thing with the existance off switch. It could be fun to live a couple more thousand years before I've actually seen everything and done it at least twice.
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What the hells wrong with you people? Shouldn't in heaven you get whatever you want? Endless sex! If you get bored from that, you deserve oblivion.



Also, for you hell suggestors, you do realize that's forever right? Endless amounts of paint for 1 trillion years times infinity? Or maybe there's chance for parol in a billion?
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Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:What the hells wrong with you people? Shouldn't in heaven you get whatever you want? Endless sex! If you get bored from that, you deserve oblivion.



Also, for you hell suggestors, you do realize that's forever right? Endless amounts of paint for 1 trillion years times infinity? Or maybe there's chance for parol in a billion?
Wait, I'm confused. When you say, "Endless sex" do you mean "sex as much as you want it"? Or do you literally mean "non-stop sex for eternity"?

Because that last one sounds like a pretty effective form of Hell to me.

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sigh. another orgasm.

makes me wonder bout porn stars.
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Enforcer Talen wrote:makes me wonder bout porn stars.
It's like breathing to them. It's secondary, and after the 100th orgasm, or so, it ceases to be of any real interest, because theyve felt it a million times.
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so, wong, for example, has a boring sex life, cuz hes done it so often?
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Post by Shinova »

Well, if heaven is to have sex continuously, it would first have to be so that each orgasm after the previous is more intense and pleasurable than the one before.

So on your millionth or something....well....
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Post by Raoul Duke, Jr. »

kojikun wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:makes me wonder bout porn stars.
It's like breathing to them. It's secondary, and after the 100th orgasm, or so, it ceases to be of any real interest, because theyve felt it a million times.
Well, considering the endorphine rush, it might just be that they build up a tolerance to orgasms, the way a hardcore alcoholic builds up a tolerance to booze.

Now that I think about it, I kinda feel bad for them. They have to fuck for a living, but may very well be incapable of enjoying it.
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So is oral sex then a gateway sex act to harder more intense forms? Like anal sex? :D
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Post by Raoul Duke, Jr. »

neoolong wrote:So is oral sex then a gateway sex act to harder more intense forms? Like anal sex? :D
I imagine so. I can't see one jumping straight to the hardcore stuff without dipping the toes in first. Well, not precisely the toes...

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Hmm, maybe I'd consider the Islamic version of heaven... I don't know much about Islam, but aren't you supposed to get 72 virgins? Or is that for martyrs only? :P

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I rather the have the option of reincarnation.
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What makes you think that eternity would even be experienced as time?
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Short answer No

Long answer Fuck No! Get locked up with JHVH in a place there is no escape from Fuck no.

Maybe an egyptianesque one, where everything is about the same (though it's possible to turn yourself into a hawk) and you don't have to do any work you don't want to.

Reincarnation is the same as death basically. No memories no me.
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What I would want heaven to be, is a place where you can do anything, be anything, and expierience anything. Plus opting for a new mortal life if you got bored would be nice.
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If I die, all I ask for is enough eternity to watch all the cool movies, meet all the cool people, play all the cool video games, eat all the cool foods, see all the cool monuments, and experience all the cool technologies, that mankind will likely invent, encounter, and build between now and whenever our Sun goes teats up. And then, I will happily wander into oblivion, because all that will remain is a lot of dead people without the ability to experience the physical universe, learn, grow, and produce any more. And that would just be shit.
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