Parents Lose Children over Family Photos
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Parents Lose Children over Family Photos
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It doesn't really get much more fucked up than this...
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It doesn't really get much more fucked up than this...
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Here we have a bunch of ambitious assholes on the police department, the DA's office, and the child welfare office trying to make names for themselves busting "child pornographers" and merrily ruining two good parents' lives in the process. What a sad and sorry sack of shit. Everyone involved should be fired.
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Only in America, only in America. My father would call this "culture shock"; I would call it stupidity on a grand scale.
And when this farce is dismissed and their children are returned, I hope they sue the unholy fuck out of Texas.
And when this farce is dismissed and their children are returned, I hope they sue the unholy fuck out of Texas.
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Everybody involved in this case should be sacked, and the family should be given compensation for their emotional trauma and wasted time. This is sick and wrong, and says more about the DA's office than it EVER could about them.
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The frightening thing is that this isn't an isolated incident. In fact it is becoming quite a common thing to happen. Almost any photo's of children where they aren't fully clothed could be siezed by law enforcement and see you going to jail for "child porn". Recently in Scotland there was an almight uproar because Edinburgh City Council had banned parent's from taking photos or videos of schools nativity plays again because of the paranoia about paedophilia. The simple fact of is that there is a witchhunt on at the moment and unless you are carefull about what you do you may well be caught up in it.
I had a look on google and found some sites with info on similar cases
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I had a look on google and found some sites with info on similar cases
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This is what happens when you live in a state where Jerry Falwell is not considered a wacko.
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this isn't just a conservative problem. this is what happens when you cross conservative morality police with leftist uber-powerful government.Darth Wong wrote:This is what happens when you live in a state where Jerry Falwell is not considered a wacko.
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"leftist uber-powerful government??"Col. Crackpot wrote:this isn't just a conservative problem. this is what happens when you cross conservative morality police with leftist uber-powerful government.Darth Wong wrote:This is what happens when you live in a state where Jerry Falwell is not considered a wacko.
Pardon me, what does George Bush has in common with socialists, other than contempt and loathing for personal freedom?
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it has nothing to do with Bush, rather the liberal concept of the supreme power of the state over the individual. Remember 'It takes a village to raise a child'? well the village just took the child away from it's parents.Simon H.Johansen wrote:"leftist uber-powerful government??"Col. Crackpot wrote:this isn't just a conservative problem. this is what happens when you cross conservative morality police with leftist uber-powerful government.Darth Wong wrote:This is what happens when you live in a state where Jerry Falwell is not considered a wacko.
Pardon me, what does George Bush has in common with socialists, other than contempt and loathing for personal freedom?
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You're really grasping here. This has everything to do with demonization of the natural body by conservative xtians.it has nothing to do with Bush, rather the liberal concept of the supreme power of the state over the individual.
Wacko conservative xtians are likely to be the culprits here. They control Texas.Remember 'It takes a village to raise a child'? well the village just took the child away from it's parents.
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
Don't know if you worded that wrong, but socialists don't exactly have this contempt of personal freedom that you speak of.Simon H.Johansen wrote:"leftist uber-powerful government??"Col. Crackpot wrote:this isn't just a conservative problem. this is what happens when you cross conservative morality police with leftist uber-powerful government.Darth Wong wrote:This is what happens when you live in a state where Jerry Falwell is not considered a wacko.
Pardon me, what does George Bush has in common with socialists, other than contempt and loathing for personal freedom?
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
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Anyway, is it unconstitutional to amputate the Dumbass States?
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it is for the creation of the all powerful state. all power and decision making ability must remain in the hands of the state. deviate from behavior deemed acceptable by the state and incur its wraith.Hamel wrote:Don't know if you worded that wrong, but socialists don't exactly have this contempt of personal freedom that you speak of.Simon H.Johansen wrote:"leftist uber-powerful government??"Col. Crackpot wrote: this isn't just a conservative problem. this is what happens when you cross conservative morality police with leftist uber-powerful government.
Pardon me, what does George Bush has in common with socialists, other than contempt and loathing for personal freedom?
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Pardon me, what does George Bush has in common with socialists, other than contempt and loathing for personal freedom?
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It is obvious that Karl Marx believed that the very idea of freedom was a bourgeois concept which should be abolished, only to be replaced by Karl Marx' only definition of "freedom", which was little more than a defense of tyranny. After all, which non-conformist can see society as the "realization of his liberty??"
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I can see why they decided to report it. Were those to go beyond the family they could be considered child porn. I think there was nothing wrong with looking into things further.Using the camera's timer, they also took three snapshots of themselves, naked in their bed. They arranged their bodies in ways that showed less flesh than most freeway billboards.
A half-dozen others recorded the kids at bath time. Fernandez took several photos of the boys "playing around," naked and innocent, with the oldest flashing a big smile. Mercado, who says she often bathed with the kids, is in several of the shots unclothed from the waist up, holding her arm modestly across her bare chest.
In one--the photo that would threaten to send Mercado and her boyfriend to prison--the infant Rodrigo is suckling her left breast.
As it is it's an overreaction since the pictures were just family photos. They were innocent, if weird, family photos. That should have been the end of it but of course they overreacted.
Check it out, everyone! ANOTHER person that doesn't know the difference between marxism and socialism!Simon H.Johansen wrote:some quoted bullshit
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
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goddammit hamel, when the government is the be all and end all of power it is wrong! if you call it socialism, marxism, lenninism, stalinism it doesn't fucking matter.Hamel wrote:Check it out, everyone! ANOTHER person that doesn't know the difference between marxism and socialism!Simon H.Johansen wrote:some quoted bullshit
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o O is all I have to say.. I don't understand how someone couldd pass judgement that quick ~ I mean, hell, how many of our parents have pics of us as little kids running around naked (thereby used as a means to embarrass us later on in life in photo albums and slide shows)?
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Why do you and Simon want to shift attention away from the xtian conservatism which is the root cause of this mess? Had these idiots not determined a woman's body to be a sinful object, we wouldn't be arguing over this article.Col. Crackpot wrote:goddammit hamel, when the government is the be all and end all of power it is wrong! if you call it socialism, marxism, lenninism, stalinism it doesn't fucking matter.Hamel wrote:Check it out, everyone! ANOTHER person that doesn't know the difference between marxism and socialism!Simon H.Johansen wrote:some quoted bullshit
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."