Can Gensis effect a DS?

[Col. Crackpot]

What will happen is that a gigantic flower will grow on the side of the Death Star, transforming it into a Hippy Star.

yes, that fits perfectly into my plan! ha ha ha (evil plan laugh) let the puny rebels think we have gone mad with peace, love and groovy thoughts. we then invite them for a swim in 'lake superlaser', and then....COMMENCE PRIMARY IGNITION!

[Lord Pounder]

Might actually help disguise the Death Star better. IIRC in the novelisation of ANH the death star was covered in mountains ect to try and simulare a dead moon.

[XPViking]

Pounder,

Really? I thought it merely made reference to the size of building on its surface as being "mountain-sized" but I could be wrong.

XPViking

[Admiral Johnason]

I just started reading Star Trek: The Genisis Wave, in which a Genisis wave begins to terraform planets all across the Alpha Quadrant. Imagine an unstoppable wave of destruction that could remove everything in a quadrant and turn it into a brand new kind of planet.

[JodoForce]

And where do books stand in ST canon?

[Darth Wong]

And where do books stand in ST canon?

Hey, don't laugh. ST books are just as canon as fanfics!

[JodoForce]

*laughs*

[CaptainChewbacca]

If I recall, the Genesis device releases a form of wierd transmuting radiation, which might penetrate particle shields.

As for the DS9 episode with a star, it exploded to life, but wasn't destroyed. If they ignited a star NEXT to the DS, that would be bad.

[Lord of the Farce]

Hey, don't laugh. ST books are just as canon as fanfics!

ROTFL!

I hope you don't mind if I nab that quote for when I next change sig.

[apocolypse]

As I recall, the star exploded (thus causing some Trekkies to leap to the conclusion the UFP has a star killer) but I can't remember.

I didn't see the DS9 ep in question, but I think you're thinking of TNG "Half a Life". They tried to re-ignite a dead star and it became unstable and blew.

[Admiral Johnason]

As I recall, the star exploded (thus causing some Trekkies to leap to the conclusion the UFP has a star killer) but I can't remember.

I didn't see the DS9 ep in question, but I think you're thinking of TNG "Half a Life". They tried to re-ignite a dead star and it became unstable and blew.

You seem to forget trilithium torpeadoes.

[Lord Poe]

You seem to forget trilithium torpeadoes.

What about them? They're not exactly torpedoes, IIRC, and most starships don't carry them.

[RedImperator]

To change the scenario a little bit, what if someone lit off a Genesis torpedo INSIDE the Death Star? You could pull it off if they thought you were interesting enough to tractor into the hangar bay instead of just vaporizing with a point defense LTL (like the Milennium Falcon), and they didn't know the Genesis device existed (else I doubt they'd take any unknown starship on board if they knew there was a ship-portable weapon capable of seriously damaging the station). The shields would be a non-factor and if they don't close the interior blast doors fast enough, the wave is going to have access to areas under the armor belt. Even assuming the wave has no effect at all on armor or major structural members because of the density of the metal used, they can't possibly be using superdense metal everywhere if Han Solo's blaster was blowing out chunks of the detention block's walls, and there's gigatons of lighter material (plastics, air, light metals, organics, etc.) on board to react with. Of course, you could only ever do this trick once, and you'd bring murderous reprisals down on your head, but Luke Skywalker only got to do the "shoot the torpedo down the exhaust shaft" trick once. too.

[Lord Poe]

To change the scenario a little bit, what if someone lit off a Genesis torpedo INSIDE the Death Star?

Oh come on. Why don't we propose that they sneak the Genesis Device into the Emperor's private bathroom and hide it in a stall?

This thread's gettin' ripe.

[NecronLord]

To change the scenario a little bit, what if someone lit off a Genesis torpedo INSIDE the Death Star?

Oh come on. Why don't we propose that they sneak the Genesis Device into the Emperor's private bathroom and hide it in a stall?

This thread's gettin' ripe.

*palpatine in bathroom*

"Ahhh... time to drain myself of purity and excrement."

*palpy looks into stall*

"What's that?"

*Genesis device does it's ten minute powering up*

"Not again..."

*Palpy force lightnings it and flushes the burnt components down the toilet.*

[Col. Crackpot]

To change the scenario a little bit, what if someone lit off a Genesis torpedo INSIDE the Death Star?

Oh come on. Why don't we propose that they sneak the Genesis Device into the Emperor's private bathroom and hide it in a stall?

This thread's gettin' ripe.

*palpatine in bathroom*

"Ahhh... time to drain myself of purity and excrement."

*palpy looks into stall*

"What's that?"

*Genesis device does it's ten minute powering up*

"Not again..."

*Palpy force lightnings it and flushes the burnt components down the toilet.*

*upon disposing of the glowing device found in his toilet, Palpy vows to review his fiber intake.

[RedImperator]

To change the scenario a little bit, what if someone lit off a Genesis torpedo INSIDE the Death Star?

Oh come on. Why don't we propose that they sneak the Genesis Device into the Emperor's private bathroom and hide it in a stall?

This thread's gettin' ripe.

How is it that impossible to imagine? They took the Milennium Falcon on board when they could have easily destroyed it, and IIRC, the stormtrooper didn't say it had the same registration number as the ship that "blasted out of Mos Eisely" until after it was already down. I'm not talking about a crack Federation commando raid here--just put the damn thing in a shielded hold on a ship and wait until you've been tractored on board. This depends on the Empire not knowing about the device until it goes off, because the only logical reason for them to pull unidentified starships into their hangar is if they think there's no ship-portable device that could seriously threaten them in the case of a suicide attack.

The biggest problem would be figuring out how to ensure the Death Star tractored the ship on board instead of just swatting it out of the sky. I'm assuming the Genesis Device is too expensive to manufacture in numbers in order to send dozens at the battlestation and hope one of them gets through. Maybe if it was leaked to them that a starship of a certain description was carrying an important person they wanted to interrogate. Maybe. As my parents never sent me to Al-Quada Camp, my terrorism skills are limited.

As for the Emperor's bathroom, there's no way I can think of to get it in the palace, but with the amount of traffic moving in and out of Coruscant, smuggling one in in the cargo hold of a freighter or luggage compartment of a passenger shuttle shouldn't be hard, provided you come up with some way to actually get the damn thing into the SW galaxy and find a hyper capable ship to transport it.

[Admiral Johnason]

Actually, the device could be snuck into the sewers below the palce. The Falson could just fly it in in an undercover mission and no one would notice it until it was too late.

[Lord Poe]

How is it that impossible to imagine? They took the Milennium Falcon on board when they could have easily destroyed it,

The Millennium Falcon was a deserted freighter, not a weapon.

and IIRC, the stormtrooper didn't say it had the same registration number as the ship that "blasted out of Mos Eisely" until after it was already down.

Again, it was a ship, not a weapon.

I'm not talking about a crack Federation commando raid here--just put the damn thing in a shielded hold on a ship and wait until you've been tractored on board. This depends on the Empire not knowing about the device until it goes off, because the only logical reason for them to pull unidentified starships into their hangar is if they think there's no ship-portable device that could seriously threaten them in the case of a suicide attack.

And how do you cloak the Genesis Wave which takes 6 to 10 minutes to power up to detonation? Do you honestly think they'll keep the ship in the hangar then?

[Darth Wong]

Am I the only one who's being driven crazy by the fact that the thread poster used "effect" instead of "affect" in the title?

[Howedar]

I got over that a few days ago. It was pretty annoying earlier though.

[Lord Poe]

Am I the only one who's being driven crazy by the fact that the thread poster used "effect" instead of "affect" in the title?

Yeah. That's still not as bad as the assclowns that use the word "loose" for the word "lose". That's just scary.

[Connor MacLeod]

Am I the only one who's being driven crazy by the fact that the thread poster used "effect" instead of "affect" in the title?

Yeah. That's still not as bad as the assclowns that use the word "loose" for the word "lose". That's just scary.

Nuh uh. I hate those who replace "canon" with "cannon"

[Col. Crackpot]

Am I the only one who's being driven crazy by the fact that the thread poster used "effect" instead of "affect" in the title?

Yeah. That's still not as bad as the assclowns that use the word "loose" for the word "lose". That's just scary.

Nuh uh. I hate those who replace "canon" with "cannon"

Brannon cares not for the canon,
but for a man on his cannon.

[RedImperator]

The Millennium Falcon was a deserted freighter, not a weapon.

and IIRC, the stormtrooper didn't say it had the same registration number as the ship that "blasted out of Mos Eisely" until after it was already down.

Again, it was a ship, not a weapon.

Which is why you'd send it on board hidden in a cargo hold shielded from sensors, powered down. However, the point is kinda moot, because...

And how do you cloak the Genesis Wave which takes 6 to 10 minutes to power up to detonation? Do you honestly think they'll keep the ship in the hangar then?

I totally forgot about that part. Tractor beams can be set to repulse, can't they? If that's the case, all someone has to do is throw a switch and the ship is dumped overboard. Damn. That power up time kills that idea.