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Dalton wrote:
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ArthurDent wrote:He's actually just barely scraped the surface of possible quotes to use in that regard.
Absolutly!

Here's some more!
*yawn*

[snip]

Half of these quotes aren't even from founding fathers, and the other half consists mostly of personal opinions or beliefs. I see nothing in these quotes that were actually from federal laws.

[snip the rest]

The rest of this goes against the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America. Any and all suggestions or proofs that the United States is a Christian nation is nullified completely and absolutely by this single amendment, no ifs, ands or buts.
GC wrote:What?

Not what you had in mind?

Aw, shucks....
Thanks for playing. You lose.
Hmmm?

You were perfectly willing to accept, and even praise, a list of non-governmental privte quotes when they supported your position. :lol:

Oh, and for the record, I'm not arguing that America is OFFICIALY a Christian nation, or that it ever was.

My point are two:

1. That you can prove either side with a list of quotes. My list was no more conclusive than the one which started this thread - and no LESS so.

2. America WAS, and largely is though at an ever declining rate, a Christian nation - not governmentally or officially but CULTURALY.

The official position of the First amendment has no bearing on the nature of the overwhelming cultural reality.

I know that fact burns you pagans up, but hey, hold on, things are mvoing your way. If you live long enough.
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GC wrote:Hmmm?

You were perfectly willing to accept, and even praise, a list of non-governmental privte quotes when they supported your position. :lol:
Wrong. Please show me where I said that.
GC wrote:Oh, and for the record, I'm not arguing that America is OFFICIALY a Christian nation, or that it ever was.
Good, so we have no argument here.
GC wrote:My point are two:

1. That you can prove either side with a list of quotes. My list was no more conclusive than the one which started this thread - and no LESS so.
Don't care.
GC wrote:2. America WAS, and largely is though at an ever declining rate, a Christian nation - not governmentally or officially but CULTURALY.
Unfortunately - which is mostly because of the propagation of European colonization which almost totally eradicated Native American belief systems.
GC wrote:The official position of the First amendment has no bearing on the nature of the overwhelming cultural reality.
A sad reality that is being eroded away at daily by people who realize they have rights.
GC wrote:I know that fact burns you pagans up, but hey, hold on, things are mvoing your way. If you live long enough.
Yes, the United States is finally becoming the free nation it was created as. Took long enough; no thanks to overbearing Christian zealots like yourself.
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It's funny; no matter how many times you point out that a Christian would NEVER bad-mouth the Bible the way those quotes do, this person persists in screaming that you can simply makes those quotes vanish by finding quotes in which the person praises the Bible. Rather than take contradictory quotes as evidence of a double-life, this person would take the quotes he/she likes, and simply pretend the others never happened.
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It's funny how nobody on this board ever disagrees with anyone else.

Hands across America worked, I guess.
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zagnutboy wrote:It's funny how nobody on this board ever disagrees with anyone else.

Hands across America worked, I guess.
And here, we have a fine example of why you should lurk before posting!!!
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
zagnutboy wrote:It's funny how nobody on this board ever disagrees with anyone else.

Hands across America worked, I guess.
And here, we have a fine example of why you should lurk before posting!!!
Don't waste your breath, Terwyn. It's a troll of the most boring variety.*yawns* :roll:
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'Nobody ever disagrees here'?

WTF is he on?
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HemlockGrey wrote:'Nobody ever disagrees here'?

WTF is he on?
He figures that because no one is leaping up to defend their idiocy for them, we must all be one big happy family that never argues. Thus proving that he has not spent even ten minutes looking around the board before passing judgement. Just another trollish moron, I'm afraid. I guess it just doesn't occur to him that their position might be wrong, hence the failure of some vocal group on this board to defend it for them.
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HemlockGrey wrote:'Nobody ever disagrees here'?

WTF is he on?
I disagree with that. :D
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Darth Wong wrote:He figures that because no one is leaping up to defend their idiocy for them, we must all be one big happy family that never argues. Thus proving that he has not spent even ten minutes looking around the board before passing judgement. Just another trollish moron, I'm afraid. I guess it just doesn't occur to him that their position might be wrong, hence the failure of some vocal group on this board to defend it for them.
Oh but Mike, the idiot's position is never wrong. Just ask the idiot. :P
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
zagnutboy wrote:It's funny how nobody on this board ever disagrees with anyone else.

Hands across America worked, I guess.
And here, we have a fine example of why you should lurk before posting!!!
Sad thing, T, is that if zagnutboy is who we think he is, he has been lurking.
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