The most well known people of the VS community

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-10 01:53pm

Well, this is an interesting idea. Who is the most well known in our little VS community? I think its fair to assume that SB.com, SD.net, and ASVS are the primary locations that debate the subject (specificaly ST vs SW). Who would you list as most well known?

Here are a few catagories to consider.

Most well known Trekkie Trolls
Most well known respected and/or rational Trekkies
Most well known Warsie Trolls
Most well known respected and/or rational Warsies
Longest known Trekkies
Longest known Warsies
Worst Trekkie Trolls
Worst Warsie Trolls

Just one rule. No picking yourself for any of the catagories. Also, this thread isn't meant to bash anyone except for maybe Sovereign, Galaxy, Space Luigi, or those like them (specificaly bad trolls, not Trekkies in general).

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-10 03:35pm

Is this in response to that noob troll not knowing who you were at SB?

Alyeska wrote: Most well known Trekkie Trolls

Timothy Jones, Darkstar, and Omnicron Theta

Most well known respected and/or rational Trekkies

You. Lord Edam

Most well known Warsie Trolls

Wes Hutching I guess. I haven't encountered many, and those I have have been beaten down by everyone very quickly. Though I suppose Poe and Wong from the trekkie troll POV

Most well known respected and/or rational Warsies

Ossus has been building quite the reputation, Wong and Poe are there but they aren't respected at all by certain extreme factions. Brian Young, though I'm not sure he counts as a warsie, he was never into the vs debating, just did TLC. Ditto for Saxton and Brown

Longest known Trekkies

Grahm Kennedy I suspect.

Longest known Warsies

Saxton, Young, Wong, Brown, Dalton, Poe

Worst Trekkie Trolls

See list at first question, though a personel favorite of mine is one who popped up at SB by the name of Wraith AKA Cereal Killer AKA half a dozen other names who kept changing them abecause he kept getting banned.

Worst Warsie Trolls

I would say the Wars person out there who is currently the most loathed by the majority of the VS community (at large, not just ST vs SW) is Saxton

Striderteen · Post by **Striderteen** » 2003-05-10 04:59pm

I would argue that being disliked and being a troll are entirely different things.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2003-05-10 05:18pm

Striderteen wrote:I would argue that being disliked and being a troll are entirely different things.

I think everyone would agree to that.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-05-10 05:55pm

Ender wrote:snip
Worst Warsie Trolls
I would say the Wars person out there who is currently the most loathed by the majority of the VS community (at large, not just ST vs SW) is Saxton

Saxton does not count, not involved in the vs dabate, or any that I know of.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-10 06:20pm

Hence the smiley

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-10 06:33pm

I'd add E1701 and Chris O'Farrell to the list of rational Trekkies.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-05-10 06:37pm

Well-known Warsie trolls:
Transcend
Wes Hutchings

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-05-10 06:49pm

Crayz9000 wrote:Well-known Warsie trolls:
Transcend
Wes Hutchings

Ahh, Trancend..how can I forget his memorable exit from ASVS? I cannot, for it was hilarious.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-05-10 07:06pm

Ben Ingram for this category.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-05-10 07:07pm

Most well known respected and/or rational Warsies

Well, there IS this one guy, called SPOOFE, that is the smartest and most rational Warsie ever created. People send him presents. Although he is a tad narcissistic.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-10 07:46pm

Crayz9000 wrote:Well-known Warsie trolls:
Transcend
Wes Hutchings

Wait... Transcend is a warise? Given how much he hurts their cause most of the time I figured he was a trekkie.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-10 08:13pm

Most well known Trekkie Trolls: This one would probably have to be Gram Kennedy. DITL is very well known. Some would want to put DarkStar up there, although I hestitate to do so.

Most well known respected and/or rational Trekkies: I have to place Lord Edam and The Darkling up here. Chris O'Farrell of course gets my vote as well.

Most well known Warsie Trolls: Prior to ICS I could list quite a few people in this list...

Most well known respected and/or rational Warsies: Much as Poe and myself loath each other, I see him as a respected Warsie. Mike certainly qualifies. I also have to place Ossus up here. Of course I also have to list Howedar because we like to talk VS from time to time and discuss ideas.

Longest known Trekkies: Gotta list Kennedy again.

Longest known Warsies: Drawing a blank here.

Worst Trekkie Trolls: This one is either Sovereign or Space Luigi. Much as people dislike DarkStar or Kennedy, these two are about as bad as Trolls get.

Worst Warsie Trolls: Again, drawing a blank here.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-05-10 09:10pm

Sovereign and Space Luigi? They are the diet coke of trolls.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-10 09:21pm

I'd have to add seanrobertson to both of the respected categories.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-10 09:24pm

Howedar wrote:I'd have to add seanrobertson to both of the respected categories.

I think of Sean as a Fiver more then a SW or ST debator.

Really, if this were just the vs community as a whole nad not just ST vs SW this would be alot easier. Most of the people who inspired me to try new series and taught me stuff fall into neither category. Same goes for the worst trolls I've ever encountered.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-05-10 09:48pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Sovereign and Space Luigi? They are the diet coke of trolls.

But...but...Space Luigi had an F-18 beating a TIE fighter!!!

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-10 10:17pm

Ender wrote:
Howedar wrote:I'd have to add seanrobertson to both of the respected categories.
I think of Sean as a Fiver more then a SW or ST debator.

Really, if this were just the vs community as a whole nad not just ST vs SW this would be alot easier. Most of the people who inspired me to try new series and taught me stuff fall into neither category. Same goes for the worst trolls I've ever encountered.

Ok, lets make this a bit bigger. Sure this is the ST vs SW forum, but I think we can expand upon it. ST vs SW started it, but it evolved into a larger VS community.

So, who makes your list?

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-05-11 02:21am

Ubiqtorate hasn't been mentioned for the respected Warsies, so I'll mention him. He doesn't post often, but when he does, his posts are informative and well-done.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-05-11 02:30am

Ender wrote:
Longest known Warsies
Saxton, Young, Wong, Brown, Dalton, Poe

I'm honored

I'll add Alyeska to the Respected Trekkies list.

EDIT: Oh, you should go on the corresponding Wars list as well.

Setesh · Post by **Setesh** » 2003-05-11 03:31am

Darkstar shouldn't be in the trekkie catagory, he was trollish in non trek wars debates to, we need a new catagory
'General Fuckwits'

Darkstar
TJ
anyone who aquired the title 'Donkey-Fucker' on this board

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-05-11 04:31am

Captain_Cyran wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Sovereign and Space Luigi? They are the diet coke of trolls.
But...but...Space Luigi had an F-18 beating a TIE fighter!!!

But then again, Darkstar said a Federation Type 2 phaser was more powerful than a HTL.

It's all relative.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-05-11 11:50am

Darkstaris the worst trekie troll for the fact that he became certifiable to the point where he writes the fan mail of his own site. Andrew Joshua Talon for goin on SCN and saying that a Danube Class Shuttle/Runabout would waste an ISD.

Worst Warsie Trolls Ben Ingram, enough said i think and that Mike6102? idiot who just took things way to seriously.

For trekies i actually respect, Alyeska and The Darkling both make very insightful and intelligent posts occasionally.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-05-11 11:52am

Alyeska wrote:Well, this is an interesting idea. Who is the most well known in our little VS community? I think its fair to assume that SB.com, SD.net, and ASVS are the primary locations that debate the subject (specificaly ST vs SW). Who would you list as most well known?

Here are a few catagories to consider.

Most well known Trekkie Trolls

Alyeska.

Most well known respected and/or rational Trekkies

Timothy Jones, Dark Star.

Most well known Warsie Trolls

Wong, Poe.

Most well known respected and/or rational Warsies

Transcend

Longest known Trekkies

Sovereign.

Longest known Warsies

Death from the Sea

Worst Trekkie Trolls

Lord Edam.

Worst Warsie Trolls

Saxton.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-11 12:09pm

GAT, you HAVE to be joking.

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