The forgotten Star Wars books?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-05-08 10:00am

irishmick79 wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:The Planet Of Twilight was the worst ever. A fucking Hutt with Jedi Powers for fuck sake?!?
Egads. Has anybody else noticed the unfortunate trend of Hutts being the most widely abused and poorly written characters in the EU? I mean, has there ever been an instance where a Hutt has been well-written? What makes these characters so hard to pull off?

Maybe because they appear to be unholy hybrids of walruses and snails?? (thus making it impossible to take them seriously)

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-05-08 02:28pm

In fairness there haven't been many Hutt main characters in the EU. I can only think of three really. Durga the Hutt, The Hutt from Planet of Twilight, and the Hutt from I, Jedi. Also i thought Durga wasn't a bad character considering that KJA was the one who wrote him in.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-05-08 11:02pm

The one from I, Jedi was pretty good.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-05-08 11:53pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:The one from I, Jedi was pretty good.

Only because he lasted 1/4 of the book and Horn only saw him thrice.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-05-10 12:48pm

He did have the most extravagent death scene ever. Shoot a hutt? Nah bomb the bastard SEVERAL times to death. They didn't call it the Great Hutt Roast for nothing.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-10 01:01pm

I read the Glove of Darth Vader. Six times.

In third grade. Blech.

Oh, and I have 'Jedi under Siege' which I picked up for free at a library giveaway, thinking it might be decent, before I knew of the horror that was KJA.

OMG...FUCKING bad.

I also *bought* all three novels of the Jedi Academy Trilogy. Erk. Half of one of the novels is Jacen and Jaina wandering around Coruscant doing stupid shit.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-05-10 01:21pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I read the Glove of Darth Vader. Six times.

In third grade. Blech.

Oh, and I have 'Jedi under Siege' which I picked up for free at a library giveaway, thinking it might be decent, before I knew of the horror that was KJA.

OMG...FUCKING bad.

I also *bought* all three novels of the Jedi Academy Trilogy. Erk. Half of one of the novels is Jacen and Jaina wandering around Coruscant doing stupid shit.

Maybe this is just my opinion.. but one thing that KJA does well are the minor characters.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-05-10 01:29pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I read the Glove of Darth Vader. Six times.

In third grade. Blech.

Oh, and I have 'Jedi under Siege' which I picked up for free at a library giveaway, thinking it might be decent, before I knew of the horror that was KJA.

OMG...FUCKING bad.

I also *bought* all three novels of the Jedi Academy Trilogy. Erk. Half of one of the novels is Jacen and Jaina wandering around Coruscant doing stupid shit.

I eventually gave those away.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-05-11 05:48am

Darth Pounder wrote:He did have the most extravagent death scene ever. Shoot a hutt? Nah bomb the bastard SEVERAL times to death. They didn't call it the Great Hutt Roast for nothing.

What makes the Hutts to resilient, other than their massive size?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-05-11 12:06pm

Nothign makes them resilient. It's just the greatest case of over kill ever saw in the modern EU.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-05-11 11:19pm

Reading that spectacular death scene for the first was actually pretty funny.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2003-05-12 12:04am

After reading now 60 SW books including 2 movie novelizations and that damn 1st volume Barnes and Nobles books i have to say that there are a few that pissed me off.

We'll start with Treky stuff, Vector Prime was Star Trek with the Skywalkers and Solos in it instead of Picard and visor man.

My Crystal Star prefrence is biased since i read it in my times of "All Star Wars is great" i thought it weird that other dimension guy was able to eat Luke and freinds though.

I thought it was in either Dark Saber or Crystal Star that the trainees at Yavin were able to move the Star Destoryers in Orbit by combining their powers and frying poor Dorsk i thing 82 (the cloned guy) that was dumb.

and in Black Fleet Crisis the trilogy catches you and makes you read but it makes the NR and Leia seem very very weak and dumb. This is the one trilogy that makes me hate Leia, i mean Nil Spaar is not Falleen. It makes me love that Borsk Feyla did take over, but then he gets dumb in the NJO and should be shot numours times with the invincible Nom Anor.

Yep so thats it.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2003-05-12 07:32am

Stormbringer wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:You know, all things considered though KJA is a decent writer.. despite the fact that he blows to hell any continuity or precedence.
No... he's not. He butchers established characters, his plot are filling with fanwank garbage, his dialogue could make Lucas' look like Oscar material, and all his new orginal characters come off as if they were special ed kids. The only thing that could be said about him is he's got the scale of the Universe down right.

It isnt just established characters he butchers.

Try reading Captain Nemo, which paints Jules Verne as some type of sham artist who writes about Captain Nemo's advantures. I kid you not.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-05-12 07:53am

Darth Pounder wrote:Nothign makes them resilient. It's just the greatest case of over kill ever saw in the modern EU.

I just thought all that firepower was required to kill a Hutt. They are huge creatures, after all.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-05-12 03:18pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:Nothign makes them resilient. It's just the greatest case of over kill ever saw in the modern EU.
I just thought all that firepower was required to kill a Hutt. They are huge creatures, after all.

According to the Han Solo Trilogy, the vital organs of a hutt are buried deep inside of their bodies, requiring numberous blaster shots to penetrate their protective layer of fat and actually find them.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-05-14 02:37pm

irishmick79 wrote:The worst possible Star Wars book has got to be Darksaber, by everybody's favorite SW author KJ Anderson. The Hutts try to build a Death Star? Jesus christ, can it get any worse?

Ah, you my mock them now, but you wait! The Ewoks who weren't killed by fall out from the Death Star will soon be building a Sun Crusher and put an end to the Hutts, who will you mock then!?

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-05-14 05:39pm

Edi wrote:Take a look at when the Lando books and Han Solo in the Corporate Sector books were written... Try twenty years ago or thereabouts. I liked them, they have the original SW feel to them. Splinter of the Mind's Eye... urrgh! The young Han Solo and Bounty Hunter books were pretty good too.

Edi

Damn! You just had to bring the Han Solo Adventures up! I felt compelled to go find the books, "Han Solo at Star's End", "Han Solo's Revenge", "Han Solo and the Lost Legacy".

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-05-18 10:55am

why do a lot of people bash the X-wing series, because seems a lot of threads are saying they are bad.

Striderteen · Post by **Striderteen** » 2003-05-19 10:59am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
irishmick79 wrote:The worst possible Star Wars book has got to be Darksaber, by everybody's favorite SW author KJ Anderson. The Hutts try to build a Death Star? Jesus christ, can it get any worse?
Love the technical implications.

Well, to be fair, they *did* have Bevel Lemelisk working for them -- it's not as if they made it up on their own. And it was Death Star Lite at best -- the Darksaber was essentially just the superlaser.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-05-19 09:38pm

Ace Pace wrote:why do a lot of people bash the X-wing series, because seems a lot of threads are saying they are bad.

It has to do with Stackpole's inconsistant writing quality, the fact that game mechanics are used, and the fact that Corran isn't that believable as a character. I think. Personally I enjoyed the X-wing series.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-05-20 02:59pm

Ace Pace wrote:why do a lot of people bash the X-wing series, because seems a lot of threads are saying they are bad.

I haven't read the X-Wing novels, but they appear to be the sort of novels you either love or hate.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-05-20 03:14pm

My main problem with the X-Wing bookms was the characters. Are Alison and Stackpole schitzophrenics? One minute they have one personalith the next book they've compoletely changed. The prime example is Wes Janson. In the Wraith Squadron books he's a loveable practicle joker then in the Star Fighters of Adumar he's like an oversexed teenager. WTF?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-05-20 03:27pm

Darth Pounder wrote:My main problem with the X-Wing bookms was the characters. Are Alison and Stackpole schitzophrenics? One minute they have one personalith the next book they've compoletely changed. The prime example is Wes Janson. In the Wraith Squadron books he's a loveable practicle joker then in the Star Fighters of Adumar he's like an oversexed teenager. WTF?

And that's before we get to the villains...