Greedo Shoots First-Han Shoots First

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-05-14 03:01pm

What is up with the whole Greedo Shoots First, Han Shoots First thing!? I've been here since March and ppl bring it up loads! Why!? Some please clariffy this!

Crazy Goji · Post by **Crazy Goji** » 2003-05-14 03:14pm

It's very simple, really. In the original 1977 version of Star Wars, Han shot Greedo before Greedo could do anything. George didn't want Han to look like a ditry scumbag so in the Special Edition, he made so that Greedo was the one that shot first. Fanboys (and girls) everywhere were in an uproar. They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-05-14 03:19pm

Thanx alot, I sadly

have only seen the Special Edition, I always thought that there was something abit off about that scene. Well, now I'm in up roar as well! Han shoots first, so it was so shall it be! Just like the stormtrooper banging his head on the Death Star.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-05-14 04:36pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Thanx alot, I sadly have only seen the Special Edition, I always thought that there was something abit off about that scene.

I am so feeling my age now.

D.Turtle · Post by **D.Turtle** » 2003-05-14 04:54pm

Well, I have never seen the SE

Doesn't have to do too much with my age though, I just simply have the videos of the OT not OT SE

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-05-14 06:03pm

Ah, I remember the first time I saw ESB... back when I was seven... it was around 11 PM at my uncles... I fell asleep about the time the SDs were in the asteroid field.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-14 06:37pm

Too bad; future generations will never get to see SW as it was, they'll only get to see Greedo shooting first and Jedi Rocks.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-05-14 06:38pm

Bah not if I can help it...I'm keepin every possible way of my originals.

Though somewhere down the line it'll degrade...sorta sad that the SE will remain while the originals will die out.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-14 06:41pm

ANH will go public domain in either 2027 or 2052, depending on how the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension pans out. So, Han shooting first may still be salvageable by 2027.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-14 06:49pm

Durran Korr wrote:Too bad; future generations will never get to see SW as it was, they'll only get to see Greedo shooting first and Jedi Rocks.

When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-05-14 06:52pm

I remember watching SW as a kid in the darkened theater (back then it was not known as ANH) and when Han slowly drew his blaster under the table I remember thinking "Wow, that Han Solo is such a smart guy, he's getting the drop on the bad guy." I guess GL doesn't see it the way a 5 year old would see it huh?

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-05-14 06:59pm

I thought the same way when I saw ANH for the first time at the age of nine in 1993.

The worst thing about Greedo shooting first is that the whole scene looks very clumsy...

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-14 07:01pm

Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first

I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-05-14 07:21pm

I've got to get myself a laserdisc player, a video capture card, a DVD burner, and the 1995 OE laserdisc set. All I've got now are the pan-and-scam VHS tapes.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-05-15 01:14am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).

Hell, I'd buy it.

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2003-05-15 05:04am

Crazy Goji wrote:They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't even see how Han shooting first is playing dirty. The green chode's got a gun in Han's face and is practically fondling himself under the table while tellling Han how much he's gonna enjoy busting a cap in his ass.

Han not only should have fired first, he should have emptied the clip into Greedo's head as a lesson to the next guy.

-- Joe Momma

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-05-15 06:13am

Crazy Goji wrote:It's very simple, really. In the original 1977 version of Star Wars, Han shot Greedo before Greedo could do anything. George didn't want Han to look like a ditry scumbag so in the Special Edition, he made so that Greedo was the one that shot first. Fanboys (and girls) everywhere were in an uproar. They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.

Not to mention that the whole scene looks quite stupid now.

Greedo points his pistol towards Solo for a minute and when he fires - from a meter distance - he misses Han...

...you don't have to be a marksman to hit a human size target from one meter.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-05-15 06:38am

Boba Fett wrote:Not to mention that the whole scene looks quite stupid now.

Greedo points his pistol towards Solo for a minute and when he fires - from a meter distance - he misses Han...

...you don't have to be a marksman to hit a human size target from one meter.

[Kung Fool Masta]I am disappointed most, young grasshopper! Did you not see where Mista Solo strikes like a snake, kicking his opponent where the place it pains the most! One can not use their weapon well when they are doubled in hurt![/Kung Fool Masta]

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-05-15 07:22am

If I ever have kids and show them ANH, I'll cover their eyes when Greedo shoots and therefore.......HAN WILL SHOOT FIRST! The only thing that worries me is that if someone tells them he doesn't, it could break the little hearts.

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-05-15 01:04pm

Greedo shooting first is as bad as when Stephen Spielberg took out the guns in that one scene in E.T. because they "scared the kids." Bah! When will movie creators learn that editing old movies is not the answer!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-05-15 01:24pm

UltraViolence83 wrote:Greedo shooting first is as bad as when Stephen Spielberg took out the guns in that one scene in E.T. because they "scared the kids." Bah! When will movie creators learn that editing old movies is not the answer!

Yes, but at least Spielberg released the original version as well.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-05-15 04:11pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).

I said it before, and I'll say it again... don't you mean "The 'Ight' Cut"?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-15 09:17pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:I said it before, and I'll say it again... don't you mean "The 'Ight' Cut"?

Err....what?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-05-15 11:02pm

It's a rather sophisticated play on words. By saying the "Wong cut" should be the "Ight cut", I am inferring that I misunderstood the phrase "Wong cut" for "Wrong cut" sans the 'r'. And "Right cut" sans the 'r' is "Ight cut".

I hate explaining jokes.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-05-15 11:08pm

All this reediting about making Greedo shoot first is dumb,its much simpler saying Han shot first cause he knew Greedo would have shot him and brought the body to Jabba and told him Han tried to shoot his way out.
Case close Lucas screwed-up.