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Darth Servo wrote:
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Superman wrote:2) biologists considering it to be a "disorder"
I never said that.
No, YOU consider it to be a disorder. We apologize for the confusion of your non-existant mind.
Yes, I consider it a disorder. So what?
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EvilGrey wrote:Now, if we fall back one level and examine what the quintessence of Christianity is -- submit to God or perish, the same principle in all enlightened religion -- I think it becomes evident that the verses' author was attempting to convey the need for harmony [through adherence to doctrine and faith in God] with nature to be saved, which is exactly what other religions state. :)
Ah, and any "disharmony" should be killed. Again, hardly the charitable thing to do. And you argue that Christianity doesn't encourage killing for no real reason.

You tried to argue the OT scriptures against homosexuality are obsolete, so I merely quoted a NT one that showed that Christianity DOES condemn gays TO DEATH.
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He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours. :)
Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
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Darth Servo wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:Now, if we fall back one level and examine what the quintessence of Christianity is -- submit to God or perish, the same principle in all enlightened religion -- I think it becomes evident that the verses' author was attempting to convey the need for harmony [through adherence to doctrine and faith in God] with nature to be saved, which is exactly what other religions state. :)
Ah, and any "disharmony" should be killed. Again, hardly the charitable thing to do. And you argue that Christianity doesn't encourage killing for no real reason.

You tried to argue the OT scriptures against homosexuality are obsolete, so I merely quoted a NT one that showed that Christianity DOES condemn gays TO DEATH.
Death by whom? By man? Of course not, because God forbids us from judging others, lest we ourselves are eager to perish.

Homosexuals will face death by their own acts when it is time for judgement by God. :)
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:I never said that.
No, YOU consider it to be a disorder. We apologize for the confusion of your non-existant mind.
Yes, I consider it a disorder. So what?
You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral, and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless" and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.
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Colonel Olrik wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours. :)
Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
What makes you ask?
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EvilGrey wrote:He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours. :)
That tells me ABSOLUTELY nothing as regards my question. And I'm not surprised in the slightest by it.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
What makes you ask?
You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.
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EvilGrey wrote:
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EvilGrey wrote:Notice how Wong thinks I claimed it to be wrong when I never did. :)
So you agree that the Biblical God is completely wrong on this count, then?
According to a former professor of mine, the verse condeming homosexuality in the OT no longer applies. It was written to ensure males engaged in intercourse with females in the hope of impregnating her with the Messiah. Well, he came, he saw, he left. The verse is obsolete. :)
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why would he make a law which applied to Israelites a thousand years before Christ in the hopes of ensuring that a man can impregnate a woman with the Messiah, particularly when Jesus was supposedly an immaculate conception?
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Darth Servo wrote:You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral,
I never said anything of the like.
and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless"
Say what?
and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.
LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove. :)
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EvilGrey wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours. :)
Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
What makes you ask?
I'm just curious if you're just ignorant but still able to learn, or a hopeless cause. Most people who pass through a good college learn to think and debate. You may just be trolling, but I would think that even a troll has certain standards. GC, for example, actually makes some valid points and concedes others. The same for Boyd and most other fundamentalist christians among us.
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EvilGrey wrote:LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove. :)
Your gross misinterpretation of the word "objective" has been dissected and refuted many times. There is nothing "objective" about your evidence-free belief system.
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Darth Servo wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
What makes you ask?
You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.
The fact that he knows the Bible like the back of his hand and not one of us here can say the same forces me to give more credence to his interpretation of the Bible than any of yours.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral,
I never said anything of the like.
and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless"
Say what?
and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.
LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove. :)
You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?
You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.
The fact that he knows the Bible like the back of his hand and not one of us here can say the same forces me to give more credence to his interpretation of the Bible than any of yours.
So do most preachers, yet no two of them can agree on what many biblical verses mean. You STILL are appealing to authority.
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Colonel Olrik wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote: Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
What makes you ask?
I'm just curious if you're just ignorant but still able to learn, or a hopeless cause. Most people who pass through a good college learn to think and debate. You may just be trolling, but I would think that even a troll has certain standards. GC, for example, actually makes some valid points and concedes others. The same for Boyd and most other fundamentalist christians among us.
The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
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EvilGrey wrote: The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
Answer my question.
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EvilGrey wrote:The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
You have naver said anything of the sort. You just repeat your irrational beliefs over and over again, ad-nauseum.
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Darth Servo wrote:You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.
I implied that atheism was Godless. :)
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Darth Servo wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
You have naver said anything of the sort. You just repeat your irrational beliefs over and over again, ad-nauseum.
I will attempt to debate earnestly if one of you has something meaningful to say. :)
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.
I implied that atheism was Godless. :)
And the post was in a direct response to a statement about anti-homosexual laws. And you define "godless" as immoral.
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EvilGrey wrote:I will attempt to debate earnestly if one of you has something meaningful to say. :)
There have been SEVERAL meaningful posts (none by you of course) in the threads. You are just too stupid to realize it. You can insult people all day apparently, by NO ONE has seen any evidence of intelligence from anything you've said.
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Take it from one of the survivors of the first EvilGrey idiocy thread; quit before you invest too much of your precious time in this moron. You're not going to get anywhere.

By the way, moron, have you taken the poison challenge yet? And can you tell me what you base your beliefs on yet? It's been about five days, I'm still waiting.
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Durran Korr wrote:Take it from one of the survivors of the first EvilGrey idiocy thread; quit before you invest too much of your precious time in this moron. You're not going to get anywhere.
Good idea, I'm going to get some dinner. Although it is good for my post count. :mrgreen:
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Notice how the troll has taken to adding a :) smiley after every single post, as if this will somehow make his bullshit acceptable.
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