Yes, I consider it a disorder. So what?Darth Servo wrote:No, YOU consider it to be a disorder. We apologize for the confusion of your non-existant mind.EvilGrey wrote:I never said that.Superman wrote:2) biologists considering it to be a "disorder"
Why try to disprove Christianity?
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Ah, and any "disharmony" should be killed. Again, hardly the charitable thing to do. And you argue that Christianity doesn't encourage killing for no real reason.EvilGrey wrote:Now, if we fall back one level and examine what the quintessence of Christianity is -- submit to God or perish, the same principle in all enlightened religion -- I think it becomes evident that the verses' author was attempting to convey the need for harmony [through adherence to doctrine and faith in God] with nature to be saved, which is exactly what other religions state.
You tried to argue the OT scriptures against homosexuality are obsolete, so I merely quoted a NT one that showed that Christianity DOES condemn gays TO DEATH.
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Death by whom? By man? Of course not, because God forbids us from judging others, lest we ourselves are eager to perish.Darth Servo wrote:Ah, and any "disharmony" should be killed. Again, hardly the charitable thing to do. And you argue that Christianity doesn't encourage killing for no real reason.EvilGrey wrote:Now, if we fall back one level and examine what the quintessence of Christianity is -- submit to God or perish, the same principle in all enlightened religion -- I think it becomes evident that the verses' author was attempting to convey the need for harmony [through adherence to doctrine and faith in God] with nature to be saved, which is exactly what other religions state.
You tried to argue the OT scriptures against homosexuality are obsolete, so I merely quoted a NT one that showed that Christianity DOES condemn gays TO DEATH.
Homosexuals will face death by their own acts when it is time for judgement by God.
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You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral, and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless" and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.EvilGrey wrote:Yes, I consider it a disorder. So what?Darth Servo wrote:No, YOU consider it to be a disorder. We apologize for the confusion of your non-existant mind.EvilGrey wrote:I never said that.
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That tells me ABSOLUTELY nothing as regards my question. And I'm not surprised in the slightest by it.EvilGrey wrote:He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours.
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You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?Colonel Olrik wrote:Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
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That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why would he make a law which applied to Israelites a thousand years before Christ in the hopes of ensuring that a man can impregnate a woman with the Messiah, particularly when Jesus was supposedly an immaculate conception?EvilGrey wrote:According to a former professor of mine, the verse condeming homosexuality in the OT no longer applies. It was written to ensure males engaged in intercourse with females in the hope of impregnating her with the Messiah. Well, he came, he saw, he left. The verse is obsolete.Darth Wong wrote:So you agree that the Biblical God is completely wrong on this count, then?EvilGrey wrote:Notice how Wong thinks I claimed it to be wrong when I never did.
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I never said anything of the like.Darth Servo wrote:You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral,
Say what?and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless"
LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove.and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.
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I'm just curious if you're just ignorant but still able to learn, or a hopeless cause. Most people who pass through a good college learn to think and debate. You may just be trolling, but I would think that even a troll has certain standards. GC, for example, actually makes some valid points and concedes others. The same for Boyd and most other fundamentalist christians among us.EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?Colonel Olrik wrote:Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.EvilGrey wrote:
He does have a Ph.D. from Harvard, is fluent in Latin and Greek, and has taught for over 30 years, so I'm going to put more faith in his interpretation than yours.
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Your gross misinterpretation of the word "objective" has been dissected and refuted many times. There is nothing "objective" about your evidence-free belief system.EvilGrey wrote:LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove.
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The fact that he knows the Bible like the back of his hand and not one of us here can say the same forces me to give more credence to his interpretation of the Bible than any of yours.Darth Servo wrote:You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?Colonel Olrik wrote:Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
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You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.EvilGrey wrote:I never said anything of the like.Darth Servo wrote:You think that a "disorder" is grounds for being immoral,
Say what?and you insist that homosexuality IS "godless"
LOL! I stated clearly that absolute, objective morality is God-decreed -- basically, whatever God says. You had nothing to prove.and I have already proven that you define morality as "what ever God says". You are a TERRIBLE liar.
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So do most preachers, yet no two of them can agree on what many biblical verses mean. You STILL are appealing to authority.EvilGrey wrote:The fact that he knows the Bible like the back of his hand and not one of us here can say the same forces me to give more credence to his interpretation of the Bible than any of yours.Darth Servo wrote:You act like an idiot, thats what. You still don't understand what an appeal to authority fallacy is.EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?
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The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.Colonel Olrik wrote:I'm just curious if you're just ignorant but still able to learn, or a hopeless cause. Most people who pass through a good college learn to think and debate. You may just be trolling, but I would think that even a troll has certain standards. GC, for example, actually makes some valid points and concedes others. The same for Boyd and most other fundamentalist christians among us.EvilGrey wrote:What makes you ask?Colonel Olrik wrote: Seriously, now. Just how old are you? My guess is fourteen.
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You have naver said anything of the sort. You just repeat your irrational beliefs over and over again, ad-nauseum.EvilGrey wrote:The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
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I implied that atheism was Godless.Darth Servo wrote:You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.
I will attempt to debate earnestly if one of you has something meaningful to say.Darth Servo wrote:You have naver said anything of the sort. You just repeat your irrational beliefs over and over again, ad-nauseum.EvilGrey wrote:The problem is that few of you have ever said anything of substance and thus I cannot debate with you. My worldview practically destroys all the usual anti-theism arguments so far expounded.
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And the post was in a direct response to a statement about anti-homosexual laws. And you define "godless" as immoral.EvilGrey wrote:I implied that atheism was Godless.Darth Servo wrote:You tried to justify your/God's condemnation of homosexuality because it was "abnormal" and I posted a DIRECT LINK TO YOUR OWN POST where you said it was "Godless" therefore you think its immoral and your justification is that its "abnormal" Therefore you DO think that abnormal=imoral.
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There have been SEVERAL meaningful posts (none by you of course) in the threads. You are just too stupid to realize it. You can insult people all day apparently, by NO ONE has seen any evidence of intelligence from anything you've said.EvilGrey wrote:I will attempt to debate earnestly if one of you has something meaningful to say.
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Take it from one of the survivors of the first EvilGrey idiocy thread; quit before you invest too much of your precious time in this moron. You're not going to get anywhere.
By the way, moron, have you taken the poison challenge yet? And can you tell me what you base your beliefs on yet? It's been about five days, I'm still waiting.
By the way, moron, have you taken the poison challenge yet? And can you tell me what you base your beliefs on yet? It's been about five days, I'm still waiting.
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Good idea, I'm going to get some dinner. Although it is good for my post count.Durran Korr wrote:Take it from one of the survivors of the first EvilGrey idiocy thread; quit before you invest too much of your precious time in this moron. You're not going to get anywhere.
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Notice how the troll has taken to adding a smiley after every single post, as if this will somehow make his bullshit acceptable.
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