Heaviest songs

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-05-16 06:34pm

innerbrat wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:I'm a triva monster, he described the Bass heavy, (Guitar and drums) style of music back in the 1960s and with some help from friends of David Bowie managed to get the first heavy metal concernt together in New York.
(This was just before Alice Cooper went from Glam to metal)
*ignores growling pretending to be singing*

Alice is Hard Rock, sweetie. He never claims to be metal (at what album do you claim him as metal?)

I'll alway list Tony Iommi as the inventor of Heavy Metal. After all, it is his music after which the term was coined.

I actually am under the strong impression that whether or not they considded themselves to be it, Led Zepplin was actually pretty much one of the first heavy metal bands. Given, they may fall under the rock category, many parts of their music seem to fall under heavy metal.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-05-16 06:53pm

Faram wrote:Oh and BTW

Ozzy Rules but I just like 666 better

That's opinion, but when you delineate Ozzy from Sabbath (Ozzy-era) Sabbath is heavier than 'Maiden.

And Sabbath came befroe Punk was invented.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-05-16 06:55pm

innerbrat wrote:That's opinion, but when you delineate Ozzy from Sabbath (Ozzy-era) Sabbath is heavier than 'Maiden.

And Sabbath came befroe Punk was invented.

Yea but this is WAY more heavy and older buy far.

Chopin - Funeral March

Try to beat that

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 06:55pm

Saurencaerthai wrote:
innerbrat wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:I'm a triva monster, he described the Bass heavy, (Guitar and drums) style of music back in the 1960s and with some help from friends of David Bowie managed to get the first heavy metal concernt together in New York.
(This was just before Alice Cooper went from Glam to metal)
*ignores growling pretending to be singing*

Alice is Hard Rock, sweetie. He never claims to be metal (at what album do you claim him as metal?)

I'll alway list Tony Iommi as the inventor of Heavy Metal. After all, it is his music after which the term was coined.
I actually am under the strong impression that whether or not they considded themselves to be it, Led Zepplin was actually pretty much one of the first heavy metal bands. Given, they may fall under the rock category, many parts of their music seem to fall under heavy metal.

I'd agree with that. Thanks for all the obscure info...i still think it's secondary to my system of "grr grr, smah nice bit metal" = thrash, "grrrgrrrpukesmash smashgrunk" = death metal "yahyahyahgruuuughrgh" - black metal...etc etc

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-05-16 07:02pm

Cradle of Filth - Born in a Burial Gown.

Listen to that song, and start to weep and beg for your soul.

Beyond that, I'm a fan of Mushroomhead and MuDvAyNe.

Yeah yeah yeah... numetal sucks, I know. But we're talking heavy shit.

Other than that, for a good crunch, Burn the Christians by Lucifer is always a good tune.

And, of course, Angel of Death. And if you don't know who wrote it, you should burn in hell with Mortiis. Go here if you don't know Mortiis.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-05-16 07:03pm

Faram wrote:Chopin - Funeral March

Try to beat that

*Salutes*
You are a dude, y'know.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 07:11pm

Queeb Salaron wrote:Cradle of Filth - Born in a Burial Gown.

she was found...

Beyond that, I'm a fan of Mushroomhead and MuDvAyNe.

meh they're ok. Mudvayne baselines are funky as hell.

Yeah yeah yeah... numetal sucks, I know. But we're talking heavy shit.

Other than that, for a good crunch, Burn the Christians by Lucifer is always a good tune.

And, of course, Angel of Death. And if you don't know who wrote it, you should burn in hell with Mortiis. Go here if you don't know Mortiis.

You had better be talking about slayer or i'll slap the black out of you, son.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-16 07:33pm

Faram wrote:
innerbrat wrote:That's opinion, but when you delineate Ozzy from Sabbath (Ozzy-era) Sabbath is heavier than 'Maiden.

And Sabbath came befroe Punk was invented.
Yea but this is WAY more heavy and older buy far.

Chopin - Funeral March

Try to beat that

1812 Taichoski (Well it is HEAVIER....)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-16 07:36pm

As to my previous statement has anyone Besides AC/DC (Cannons in those about to Rock) and The Who (Keith Moon used contact explosives on parts of his drums) used cannons/explosives as part of the concert/recording process?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 07:39pm

Doesn't bach just beat all classical ass for heavieness bar possibly beethoven?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 07:41pm

Wagner - The song from the omen...ride of the valkyries...and some others that escape me for the moment.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-05-16 08:06pm

Black Sabbath - "Iron Man" is a classic, I think it's heavier and more evil sounding than "Paranoid", but I think the heaviest song on that album would be "Electric Funeral".

Slayer gets my nod for the most aggressive evil music I've heard so far. Take a listen to "Postmortem", "Raining Blood", "Necrophobic", & "Jesus Saves" and you'll feel like running around and beating the shit out of people.
Then go to "South of Heaven" & "Seasons in the Abyss" for heavy evil tunes. And if you ever see Slayer live, stay the hell away from the mosh pit unless you want to get ruined, the people in there are fucking psycho.

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-05-16 08:18pm

innerbrat wrote:
Faram wrote:Oh and BTW

Ozzy Rules but I just like 666 better
That's opinion, but when you delineate Ozzy from Sabbath (Ozzy-era) Sabbath is heavier than 'Maiden.

And Sabbath came befroe Punk was invented.

I firmly take the stance that punk (the style) happened before punk broke. How so? If you look at the MC5, it's very much punk in style (Simple chords, fast, wild) , yet came before punk broke.

Drewcifer · Post by **Drewcifer** » 2003-05-16 08:20pm

aerius wrote:And if you ever see Slayer live, stay the hell away from the mosh pit unless you want to get ruined, the people in there are fucking psycho.

Quite right! What's funny is that Slayer is a fairly down-to-earth bunch of guys. I saw them on the Clash of the Titans tour (with Anthrax, Megadeth, and many others) and they were hilarious. After a few songs, the singer (who's name I forget) came to the mic with his hands casually behind his back. He spoke quite deliberately, but softly.

"Thank you, thank you very much. I trust you are all having a pleasant evening? We appreciate the support of you, our loyal fans. I hope everyone has a good time tonight, but please be careful. This next song is called...[switching to a scream]...Angel of Death!!!"

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-05-16 08:21pm

I'd agree with that. Thanks for all the obscure info...i still think it's secondary to my system of "grr grr, smah nice bit metal" = thrash, "grrrgrrrpukesmash smashgrunk" = death metal "yahyahyahgruuuughrgh" - black metal...etc etc

ROTFL!!! That's beautiful!
You're forgetting one, though:

"By my sword, I shall kill the dragon with power!!!! <castrated note>AAAAAAAAAHHH</castrated note>= Power Metal

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-05-16 08:24pm

Rye wrote:Doesn't bach just beat all classical ass for heavieness bar possibly beethoven?

Ummm, Bach would be Baroque, not classical. Any guy who creates the modern system of tempering for instruments deserves a big one. The funny thing was that he was actually the second choice for many of the jobs he held, including the ones for royalty! Basically, he didn't move foreward with the conventions of the time, basically using counterpoint in a time where that was no longer the fashion.

Drewcifer · Post by **Drewcifer** » 2003-05-16 08:28pm

Saurencaerthai wrote:I firmly take the stance that punk (the style) happened before punk broke. How so? If you look at the MC5, it's very much punk in style (Simple chords, fast, wild) , yet came before punk broke.

KICK OUT THE JAMS!!

I would venture that Malcom McClaren really helped make punk music popular when he managed the Sex Pistols. He's a wanker, and the Pistols are often over-hyped, but he really helped get punk out of the garages and squats and clubs and into the mainstream conciousness.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 08:43pm

Saurencaerthai wrote:
I'd agree with that. Thanks for all the obscure info...i still think it's secondary to my system of "grr grr, smah nice bit metal" = thrash, "grrrgrrrpukesmash smashgrunk" = death metal "yahyahyahgruuuughrgh" - black metal...etc etc
ROTFL!!! That's beautiful!
You're forgetting one, though:

"By my sword, I shall kill the dragon with power!!!! <castrated note>AAAAAAAAAHHH</castrated note>= Power Metal

Oh mercy no! I can't stand power metal beyond pantera's cowboys from hell. The sound of the guys testicles being condensed brings tears to my eyes. If a guy is singing, it sohuld be at the highest burton c bell melody style (of which nu metal copied afterwards, you can hear it from jonathan davis up to corey taylor), alternatively if they do rap metal, they had better be called biohazard, or do something else in my book.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-05-16 08:44pm

Saurencaerthai wrote:
innerbrat wrote:burn in Hell you nu-metal heretics.
Morbid Angel is Nu-metal? Nile is Nu-Metal? Meshuggah is Nu-metal? Darkane is Nu-metal?
My dear, methinks you have either NEVER have listened to a note of music from any of the groups I mentioned, or you have your catagories GROSSLY confused.

Morbid Angel is Death metal. Nile is mythical death metal. Messhugah UBER-complicated Death metal. Darkane is Black/thrash. Vader is Death metal. Lockup is a borderline-death blackmetal band.
I would gladly excuse your ignorance if it weren't for the heinous act of
CALLING MAYHEM NU-METAL. THIS IS A HERETICAL ACTION, M'Dear.
Mayhem is black metal at it's beginnings. Way before Korn. Way before Limp Bizkit. Way before the term "nu-metal" originated. These guys are some of the more influential guys to many people on the black metal scene.

Sauren? It's NU-METAL. Death Metal, BlackThrash, hell Anything that has to be described as anything other than "Heavy Metal" is Nu-Metal.

True Metal seems to have died in the 90's.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 08:51pm

LadyTevar wrote:
Saurencaerthai wrote:
innerbrat wrote:burn in Hell you nu-metal heretics.
Morbid Angel is Nu-metal? Nile is Nu-Metal? Meshuggah is Nu-metal? Darkane is Nu-metal?
My dear, methinks you have either NEVER have listened to a note of music from any of the groups I mentioned, or you have your catagories GROSSLY confused.

Morbid Angel is Death metal. Nile is mythical death metal. Messhugah UBER-complicated Death metal. Darkane is Black/thrash. Vader is Death metal. Lockup is a borderline-death blackmetal band.
I would gladly excuse your ignorance if it weren't for the heinous act of
CALLING MAYHEM NU-METAL. THIS IS A HERETICAL ACTION, M'Dear.
Mayhem is black metal at it's beginnings. Way before Korn. Way before Limp Bizkit. Way before the term "nu-metal" originated. These guys are some of the more influential guys to many people on the black metal scene.
Sauren? It's NU-METAL. Death Metal, BlackThrash, hell Anything that has to be described as anything other than "Heavy Metal" is Nu-Metal.

True Metal seems to have died in the 90's.

Bah, same old nerdy metaller doomish outlook. Take killswitch engage. New metal, not Nu metal.

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-05-16 08:55pm

LadyTevar wrote:
Saurencaerthai wrote:
innerbrat wrote:burn in Hell you nu-metal heretics.
Morbid Angel is Nu-metal? Nile is Nu-Metal? Meshuggah is Nu-metal? Darkane is Nu-metal?
My dear, methinks you have either NEVER have listened to a note of music from any of the groups I mentioned, or you have your catagories GROSSLY confused.

Morbid Angel is Death metal. Nile is mythical death metal. Messhugah UBER-complicated Death metal. Darkane is Black/thrash. Vader is Death metal. Lockup is a borderline-death blackmetal band.
I would gladly excuse your ignorance if it weren't for the heinous act of
CALLING MAYHEM NU-METAL. THIS IS A HERETICAL ACTION, M'Dear.
Mayhem is black metal at it's beginnings. Way before Korn. Way before Limp Bizkit. Way before the term "nu-metal" originated. These guys are some of the more influential guys to many people on the black metal scene.
Sauren? It's NU-METAL. Death Metal, BlackThrash, hell Anything that has to be described as anything other than "Heavy Metal" is Nu-Metal.

Incorrect. Nu-metal is used to describe the wave of ill-construed music which includes groups such as Korn, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, and (to many) Soulfly. This is often the attempts at fusing rap and hiphop with metal. THAT is Nu metal.

True Metal seems to have died in the 90's

LMAO!!! Perhaps if by died, you mean isn't played on your favorite radio station. Please, unless I have somehow missinterpereted you, explain exactly HOW true metal is dead. In fact, explain to me how the HELL heavy metal suddenly became the only "true metal".

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 09:05pm

[quote="Saurencaerthai]
Incorrect. Nu-metal is used to describe the wave of ill-construed music which includes groups such as Korn, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, and (to many) Soulfly. This is often the attempts at fusing rap and hiphop with metal. THAT is Nu metal.

True Metal seems to have died in the 90's

LMAO!!! Perhaps if by died, you mean isn't played on your favorite radio station. Please, unless I have somehow missinterpereted you, explain exactly HOW true metal is dead.[/quote]

Nu metal wasn't that bad till the record companies made a mint from it. I remember back in the day, when q2 came out and i finally found a music i could listen to that wasn't prodigy. From q2 soundtrack to korn, to slipknot...to first 2 limp bizkit 1st 2 albums, to soulfly to sepultura, to pantera, slayer etc etc etc.

no linkin park when i were a lad. But maybe kids'll go onto the harder stuff after that, as i did.

Plus: i still like korn, some limp songs, and q2 music, and prodigy!

and soulfly rock, 3 could be seps in disguise, better by far than the latest sepultura offering.

GonK · Post by **GonK** » 2003-05-16 09:06pm

what no Rage Against the Machine???
Killing in the name of certainly deserves a mention.

/has a look through cd collection

Other honourable mentions

Ace of Spades - Motorhead
Ever tried to drive sensibly while listening to this? It just ain't possible.

Enter Sandman - Metallica
Say what you like about the bands stance against napster it's still one of the best heavy metal track's out there.

Back in Black - AC/DC
Bacause I like it.

Have A Cigar - Foo Fighters version
Pink Floyd as heavy metal? Believe it.

Kashmir - Led Zepplin
No further comment needed.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-05-16 09:09pm

Rye wrote:
Queeb Salaron wrote:And, of course, Angel of Death. And if you don't know who wrote it, you should burn in hell with Mortiis. Go here if you don't know Mortiis.
You had better be talking about slayer or i'll slap the black out of you, son.

No, I was talking about Sheryl Crow.

OF COURSE I was talking about Slayer!

And by the by, if we're talking about REAL metal, SEVENDUST IS WAY UNDERRATED!!

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-05-16 09:12pm

Bullet In Your Head by black label society, and counterfeit god are some of the best metal songs in existence.