Traditional Family Values.

[NecronLord]

We always hear an endless chant about them. What exactly are these traditional family values?

[Darth Wong]

We always hear an endless chant about them. What exactly are these traditional family values?

Family values according to me:

1. Do not shirk your responsibilities as a father.
2. Be faithful to your wife.
3. Look out for your family's safety.
4. Don't rule your family as a tyrant.
5. Always try to be a good husband before criticizing your wife.
6. Spend time at home; do not measure success in life by how much time you are able to spend on the golf course with your friends.

The Southern Baptists' idea of family values

1. Spare the rod, spoil the child. Never let kids grow up without proper (by which we mean physical, harsh, and frequent) "discipline" because that will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
2. Read the Bible and try to make everyone else do so too. Never let people hear about things like evolution because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
3. Sex is bad. It is a necessary evil which is only excusable for the sake of reproduction. Never let kids hear about sex because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
4. Foul language is bad. Never let kids hear foul language because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.

[beyond hope]

And don't forget the intolerant fundie's Golden Rule:

"Do as I say and not as I do!"

[UltraViolence83]

I'm sure most of our family values are almost identical to Darth Wong's.

Mine are (in no particular order):
1:Be a decent man for my kids to follow as a rolemodel.
2:Treat my wife with as much respect as she gives me.
3:Only physicaly punish my kids for very bad things (like purposely destroying property or anything like that).
4:Don't use empty threats, and don't nag/bitch excessively. It's in my experience that people whom give reasons for their brand of authority and don't yell at their kids every other minute are treated with much more respect than the ones who do.
5:I'd teach my kids to respect themselves, and stand up for themselves...Something I never did as a child.


I don't see what's so bad about physical punishment. Who here hasn't been spanked? Who here is a disturbed hatemonger because of it? Goes too far, though. And that's why this country overreacts and makes dumb laws against it (and anti-child punishment shitheads get tolerated enough to get on Oprah and say how yelling at your child will ruin his/her self-esteem).

[GC]

We always hear an endless chant about them. What exactly are these traditional family values?

Family values according to me:

1. Do not shirk your responsibilities as a father.
2. Be faithful to your wife.
3. Look out for your family's safety.
4. Don't rule your family as a tyrant.
5. Always try to be a good husband before criticizing your wife.
6. Spend time at home; do not measure success in life by how much time you are able to spend on the golf course with your friends.

The Southern Baptists' idea of family values

1. Spare the rod, spoil the child. Never let kids grow up without proper (by which we mean physical, harsh, and frequent) "discipline" because that will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
2. Read the Bible and try to make everyone else do so too. Never let people hear about things like evolution because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
3. Sex is bad. It is a necessary evil which is only excusable for the sake of reproduction. Never let kids hear about sex because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.
4. Foul language is bad. Never let kids hear foul language because it will destroy their minds and make them into sociopaths.

Tiresome trite stereotype much?

Perhaps I should engage in a little oreintal pigion english for your amusement?

More rationality for the masses, eh?

*sigh*

Nevermind....

[Lord Pounder]

For my mum and dad family values where based on one goal. Their whole belief is that a good parent makes sure their kids turn out better than they where, I hope i'm as good a parent as my mum dad when the time comes.

[Drooling Iguana]

Dogma by any other name...

[Darth Wong]

Tiresome trite stereotype much?

Perhaps I should engage in a little oreintal pigion english for your amusement?

How predictable. The defensive Baptist lashes out by trying to equate my characterization of Baptist "family values" to racism, as if a religion is an innate characteristic like one's race, rather than a choice like one's political affiliation.

More rationality for the masses, eh?

*sigh*

Nevermind....

Also notice how GC makes no attempt to actually refute any of this. Is "spare the rod and spoil the child" not written right in the Bible you quote? And aren't frank discussion of sex and foul language both considered verboten in fundie-land? And doesn't every Sunday sermon preach the importance of teaching kids Biblical values, for fear that without them, the kids will have no values at all? Which part of the "stereotype" is wrong?

[Peregrin Toker]

Tiresome trite stereotype much?

Perhaps I should engage in a little oreintal pigion english for your amusement?

How predictable. The defensive Baptist lashes out by trying to equate my characterization of Baptist "family values" to racism, as if a religion is an innate characteristic like one's race, rather than a choice like one's political affiliation.

Just a nitpick:
If he believed that, he'd be praising Odin, not Jesus!

(All the Monotheistic religions are middle-eastern, after all)

BTW, I'm not implying that all Odin-worshippers are racists. In fact, I think most of them just are like any other New Age pagans.